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Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:22 am

Good morning all,

This is what I need. I have 5400 pieces of LC 223 once fired brass. I sent it off and had it re-sized, trimmed and the primmer pockets cleaned. I am looking for someone local or within an hour or so to reload this. I have the primers and can get the rest of the stuff needed. I need to purchase someones time to put it all together.

Shoot me an IM if you can help.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Doug Bowser on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:33 am

You are asking another shooter to take on a big liability. If this were done and the feds found out the reloader could be in hot water.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:54 am

I would stay and help...I just dont have the equipment or knowledge. I dont want anyone to get in any hot water.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by captain-03 on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:55 am

Doug Bowser wrote:You are asking another shooter to take on a big liability. If this were done and the feds found out the reloader could be in hot water. Doug


I would have to agree with Doug. I would suggest "getting with someone" in your local area and have them show you how to do it - using their equipment, knowledge, etc. I have done this before for a few friends; however, I will not load it for them. Friends are friends until something really bad happens! Additionally, I will not let others shoot my reloads UNLESS I have shot them first in the gun they will be using. I usually will not shoot reloads from someone I do not know really, really well and know that they are well versed in proper reloading procedures.

With that much ready to load brass, the time may be right for you to invest in the equipment needed. Even if you only get 3 or 4 loads per piece, that is about 20,000 5.56 reloads --- load that many and you will probably pay for the equiment in short order.

Sorry to pour cold water on your post, but without a manufacture's license, liability insurance, etc., I would be hard pressed to load for another individual.

I am sure that are several members close to the V'burg area that would help you choosing equipment and lending their knowledge to get you going down the right path to reloading your own.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by bubbat on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:57 am

Doug, why would the reloader be in hot water with the Feds? Is it against any laws to reload ammo for someone else? Just wondering.

I wouldn't do it because of the liability stand point if something happened while they were shooting the ammo.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:02 am

Thanks for the fast replies. I will send it to a licensed manufacture. I sure don't want to get anyone into any trouble. That's why I ask the question. I was hoping one of the experts would share there knowledge.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by captain-03 on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:16 am

bubbat wrote:Doug, why would the reloader be in hot water with the Feds? Is it against any laws to reload ammo for someone else? Just wondering.

I wouldn't do it because of the liability stand point if something happened while they were shooting the ammo.


Not Doug -- but the OP stated he would pay for someone's time --- doing it for profit would probably cross the line between just being friends and a manufacture .... I would not like to have to defend it in court IF the BATF thinks differently!!

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by bubbat on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:28 am

Yeah, didn't think about the paying someone to reload part, yeah the BATF would not be happy campers about that.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Lt.Dan on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:36 am

You want to sell any of that brass?

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:25 am

Not really - I've got a MG shoot to go to in March and need it to play with a HK23E.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Lt.Dan on Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:42 pm

Is it all previous MG brass?

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:59 pm

Yep, its all once fired MG brass. It started out as Lake City M855 62 grain. I sent the raw brass to GSS Competition in WV and had them re-size, trim and clean out the primmer pockets. Now its ready to reload.


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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Doug Bowser on Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:17 pm

bubbat wrote:Doug, why would the reloader be in hot water with the Feds? Is it against any laws to reload ammo for someone else? Just wondering.

I wouldn't do it because of the liability stand point if something happened while they were shooting the ammo.


If you loaded that much and took a fee for your labors, you would legally be an ammunition manufacturer. You have to have a federal license to manufacture ammunition.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Scharfschütze on Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:21 pm

Ditto Doug´s remarks. BATFE would be able to jump on that if they wanted to. Get with someone in your area who will let you load it under their supervision, you pay for the components you use. If you have that much brass / need that much ammo, you would be well-served to start reloading. Or at the very least trade that brass for loaded ammo, ie, barter.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:05 pm

Understand before you read this I am sending the ammo to a licensed manufacture for reloading. This is just information I found.

Ok guys this is what I found from reading the BATF website and my copy of ATF Pub 5300.4:

Q: May a person licensed as a manufacturer of firearms also manufacture ammunition?

Yes. The person may also manufacture ammunition (not including destructive device ammunition or armor piercing ammunition) without obtaining a separate license as a manufacturer of ammunition.

Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]

This is how I read this. I the person reloading does not do it as a means of livelihood and profit they can reload.
Second, a person licensed as a manufacturer,07FFL correct, can manufacture ammo without any additional license. I have a current 07FFL, so the person reloading the ammo would be working for me and per the ATF website, http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/manufacturers.html#ammo-reloading, it would be legal.

I mean no disrespect with my reply, just posting the info I found per the BATF.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by southdeltahunt on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:23 pm

Dixie Precision Rifles in Brandon, MS is a licensed firearms and ammunition manufacturer as well as a firearms importer. We have also applied for the SOT so we expect to be both manufacturing and dealing NFA weapons such as suppressors and short-barreled rifles by the end of February. We will be glad to help in any way we can.
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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Travarmy on Thu May 05, 2011 3:19 pm

southdeltahunt wrote:Dixie Precision Rifles in Brandon, MS is a licensed firearms and ammunition manufacturer as well as a firearms importer. We have also applied for the SOT so we expect to be both manufacturing and dealing NFA weapons such as suppressors and short-barreled rifles by the end of February. We will be glad to help in any way we can.
Thanks
Blake Ward
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www.1000yardhunter.com


I have got to let you know that the guys at Dixie Precision Rifles does a great job on reloading. If you got 100 or 5500, like me, just give Blake a call and he will take GREAT care of your ammo needs.

Blake - thanks for the great service.


2000 pieces of 62grain 5.56


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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by Xd357 on Thu May 05, 2011 11:51 pm

Man! Looks like you got it taken care of.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by SubGunFan on Fri May 06, 2011 6:18 am

Now you are ready for Camp McCain on June 4th....... Smile

That ammo looks GREAT.

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Re: Reloading 223 LC Brass

Post by captain-03 on Fri May 06, 2011 9:54 am

... Actuallly looks BETTER than new!! Let us know how well they perform ... Also, can you (customer) determine the specific load you want?

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