Ever Wonder Why an Empty Case is with you gun?

jakeg823 wrote:I've never bought a single handgun that actually came with the empty case...Which might not be smart on my part but it's not something I think about

PhillipM wrote:I wish I could add at the bottom of those FAQ's my question.

"How many guns used in crimes have been traced back to the owners using this database?"

bubbat wrote:

PhillipM wrote:I wish I could add at the bottom of those FAQ's my question.

"How many guns used in crimes have been traced back to the owners using this database?"

According to the Orange County NY Shooters website 2 since they started it in 2002

http://www.ocshooters.com/Reports/cobis/cobis.htm

bubbat wrote:

PhillipM wrote:I wish I could add at the bottom of those FAQ's my question.

"How many guns used in crimes have been traced back to the owners using this database?"

According to the Orange County NY Shooters website 2 since they started it in 2002

http://www.ocshooters.com/Reports/cobis/cobis.htm

Why Ballistic Fingerprinting Doesn't (and Won't) Work
...aside from the fact that calling it "gun DNA" doesn't make it so.

Here's the problem, though. What they say (and this is overwhelmingly true for these groups) is only partly (in this case, minimally) true. There's a whole lot of information they neglect, gloss over, bury, and avoid.

Let's look at what the current ballistic fingerprint (I'm going to abbreviate it BF from now on) databases are attempting. In Maryland's and New York's, all new handguns sold in these states must be provided from the manufacturer with one or two fired cartridge cases. When the gun is sold, those cases are forwarded to the proper ballistics lab along with the serial number, make and model of the handgun. Supposedly no direct information about the purchaser is included, but you can imagine how long that would actually last. The NRA's primary objection to BF is that it's backdoor gun registration.

Anyway, the cartridge cases are then entered into the BF database by being digitally imaged by a trained ballistics technician, and those images are linked to the make, model, caliber and serial number of the firearm. Then, if any spent casings are found at a crime scene, that recorded information will be available for comparison with the evidence collected. The BF database will be searched by a sophisticated program looking for a match. What does the software look for? Well, as the Brady Center explained, it looks for those "unique markings" - markings "as unique as human fingerprints."

The only problem is, they're not.

Doug Bowser wrote:The fools in NY and MD don't know that a small piece of garnet paper can change the face of the breech and tip of the firing pin on any firearm, making this ID useless.
Doug

Doug Bowser wrote:The fools in NY and MD don't know that a small piece of garnet paper can change the face of the breech and tip of the firing pin on any firearm, making this ID useless.

Doug