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Post by DCKilla on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:45 pm

Here's an interesting bill that passed the House. You'll have to read the bill to fully understand. The title is sort of misleading.

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2011/PDF/history/HB/HB0506.xml

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by rcowanjr on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:36 pm

How did you take it? It says that a person that has a permit and takes an approved course can carry in the places listed in section 13 except for blah, blah, blah. But after the exceptions, it makes it sound like this person would be able to carry in public parks, schools, colleges and places of worship, to name a few. Did you take it this way? If so, I'm all for it. I took a course while I was waiting to receive my firearms permit, so I could immediately enjoy these benefits.

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:56 am

Police stations, court rooms during judicial proceedings, jails/detention facilities, and crack houses will be the only places off limits to permit holders with this endorsement. That's how I'm reading it. You do have to remember there are preemption exceptions in 45-9-53 which gives cities and counties authority to restrict carry in certain places.

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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:39 am

DCKilla wrote:. You do have to remember there are preemption exceptions in 45-9-53 which gives cities and counties authority to restrict carry in certain places.

At this point if it's going through Jud B we should be happy for anything we can get. And yeah some people will make a big deal out of cities and counties having authority to restrict it in certain places, but they already have that authority for everything else, otherwise we wouldn't have BS like dry counties, or home and yard upkeep codes, so if all they're getting authority over is parks and the like then I say let em have it! I haven't been to a park in I don't know when! Or a court room/city hall/etc

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:22 am

jakeg823 wrote:At this point if it's going through Jud B we should be happy for anything we can get.
It has passed the House already. As long as the Senate passes it unamended, it will head straight to the governor's desk.Smile

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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:49 am

Haven't had a chance to read it, but y'all said it will require a class to be allowed to carry in normally prohibited places?(church, colleges, etc?)

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:26 am

Yep, that's about it in a nutshell.

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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:15 pm

Not a fan of requiring it but I think I could deal with that. Since it's a good thing to do anyway

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Post by bubbat on Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:11 pm

Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see any mention of permit holders being included in the "certain persons who have firearms training" I think ya'll are getting excited over nothing.

The "certain persons" will only include prosecutors,public defenders,coroners, etc to carry concealed everywhere. Since it doesn't list who the "certain persons" are, I don't have high hopes the MHP is going to include permit holders in that. IMO

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:33 pm

I should put the whole thing in bold print, but didn't. So, I put in bold what might reduse the confusion. This training is not required for the permit, just the endorsement. I didn't highlight the exceptions. They have already discussed.

This Section will be add to 97-37-7 with this bill.

A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training, or by any other organization approved by the Department of Public Safety, shall also be authorized to carry weapons in courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of Section 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined in Section 95-3-1, any police, sheriff or highway patrol station or any detention facility, prison or jail. The department shall promulgate rules and regulations allowing concealed pistol permit holders to obtain an endorsement on their permit indicating that they have completed the aforementioned course and have the authority to carry in these locations.

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Post by bubbat on Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:40 pm

Ah I was missing something. lol

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:00 pm

It's interesting that this added portion contains the word "weapons" and lacks the word "revolver." Maybe, I'm just being picky. IDK


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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:00 pm

I really need to do a course anyway. I've always known the basic rules and such, but it would be good to go find out what exactly I am doing wrong. Probably gonna look into one pretty soon since this semester I'm not loaded down with school everyday

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Post by dnr1128 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:22 pm

So...would the course that our own Cliff Cargill offers qualify for this, should the bill pass?

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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:50 pm

It made it through committee B first? Impressive!

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Post by DCKilla on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:18 pm

dnr1128 wrote:So...would the course that our own Cliff Cargill offers qualify for this, should the bill pass?
I'm sure it will depend on the "rules and regulations" put in place by the department of public safety.

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Post by dnr1128 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:29 pm

DCKilla wrote:
dnr1128 wrote:So...would the course that our own Cliff Cargill offers qualify for this, should the bill pass?
I'm sure it will depend on the "rules and regulations" put in place by the department of public safety.

According to the text "...who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training..." It sounds to me like any course by an NRA certified instructor would qualify. But like you say, the DPS will have the final say.

Everybody should take some kind of training.

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by Cliff Cargill on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:30 pm

Hmm...looks like it would. We'll see.

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Re: House Bill 506

Post by kowen1971 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:54 pm

Cliff, I hope you'll offer a weekend course for those of us that will be having to drive down from the north of the state... thumbs up

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Post by Cliff Cargill on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:57 pm

Yes!!! No problem.

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