why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

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why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by Jharmon on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:00 pm

does anyone know, i ask people at pawn shops but they really dont have a good response to my question.

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by PhillipM on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:24 pm

For the same reason you have to be twenty one to buy a beer. Someone passed a law. I'm in the camp that believes if you can in to war at eighteen you should have all the rights and privileges enjoyed by other citizens.

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by bubbat on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:41 pm

The Gun Control Act of 1968 set the age requirements.

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by 360glitch on Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:21 am

Interestingly, it does not seem that the law prevents private sale of a handgun to anyone over the age of 18. Unfortunately I didn't find that out until a day or two before I turned 21.

Check the books to make sure I'm right, but I believe that is the case.

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by bubbat on Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:03 am

360glitch wrote:Interestingly, it does not seem that the law prevents private sale of a handgun to anyone over the age of 18. Unfortunately I didn't find that out until a day or two before I turned 21.

Check the books to make sure I'm right, but I believe that is the case.

You can't buy handgun ammo till your 21. You can have a handgun at 18 but you can buy any ammo for it till your 21??? That makes alot of sense. scratch

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by NRA_guy on Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:39 am

From the BATF regulations web site:



FEDERAL LAW

The Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, provides in pertinent part as follows:

18 U.S.C. 922(x)

(x)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile—

(A) a handgun; or

(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—

(A) a handgun; or

(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

(3) This subsection does not apply to—

(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—

(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;

(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile's parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except—

(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or

(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i) a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile's parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm;

(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile's possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and

(iv) in accordance with State and local law;

(B) a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;

(C) a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or

(D) the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.

(4) A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.

(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.

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(b) The Chief, Federal Firearms Licensing Center, shall approve a properly executed application for license on ATF Form 7, ATF Form 7CR, or ATF Form 8 Part II, if:

(1) The applicant is 21 years of age or over;
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(b) Sales or deliveries to underaged persons. A licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector shall not sell or deliver (1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 18 years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition, is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than 21 years of age...

Sounds like a FTF handgun or ammo sale to a 19 year old is OK, but a dealer cannot sell a handgun to the person until he reaches the age of 21.

Many sellers are not sure what the law is; so they err on the safe side. Some, like Walmart, have their own rules about what they will do.

ATF regulations also require dealers to post this intimidating notice that most folks will never read:

YOUTH HANDGUN SAFETY ACT NOTICE

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by Hammer on Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:52 am

So, how do you determine if it is handgun ammo or rifle ammo? I have seen rifles chambered in a lot of calibers that are traditionally handgun calibers. 45 acp. 9mm, .22....

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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by msredneck on Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:27 am

The short answer is... cause Big Brother said so.

Just because most yahoos both behind the counter and in the retail stores don't understand it doesn't change a thing.

we've been round and round on this subject many times before with some younger MSGO members

Hammer is right...There are "handguns" that shoot 223...Kel-tec PLR 16..is it a handgun?, its it a rifle?, its almost a sbr....crafty little devils at Kel-tec

Even in a private sale, U can't prove to me you are 21...I aint selling you "jack"






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Re: why do you have to be 21 to buy a handgun

Post by NRA_guy on Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Right.

As the seller can place whatever stipulations you wish ("at least 30 years old, resident of Hinds County, and blue eyes", if you wish), but the OP was about the laws and regulations that control handgun purchases by those under 21.

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