Re: Hard decisions!

by PhillipM on Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:39 pm

shoeshooter wrote:I'm assuming you came to your senses and bought the Garand?

I'm the proud 3/4 owner of IHC 4525770, lol! It was more money than the AR but it was on the table behind my friends I was helping man so for two days I've been looking over my shoulder at it. Better pics when I get my hands on it.

Ain't she purdy?

by PhillipM on Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:57 pm

I couldn't afford anything on this row.

There were probably 50 or so Garands. Every rifle on this rack came with a completed data sheet. The fifth from the bottom didn't have a price tag.

I guess if you have to ask it's you can't afford it since it has this dohickey on the end of the barrel!

by shoeshooter on Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:17 pm

You did well. She IS a beauty...and will undoubtedly shoot even better.

I might be up for a 'bama trip about the 13th or 14th. Keep me posted.

by PhillipM on Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:18 am

I'll do that shoe. It will be the weekend, probably the 16th.

I googled the smith, Bill Reitz and found the link below. He is listed as being inducted into the US Army Marksmanship's hall of fame.

http://www.gunreports.com/news/handguns/USAMU_United_States_Army_Marksmanship_Unit_884-1.html

by Doug Bowser on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:22 am

Phillip M ,

I never shot scores as high with the M1 as I did with the RR AR15A2 NM rifle. In the World of HP Rifle Shooting, a match grade M1 is really obsolete. As the other Phillip said, it can't be used in CMP Garand Matches. So, what use would it be in match shooting against AR15 NM rifles.

The AR15 NM rifle is easier to control in Rapid Fire. As a matter of fact, it feels like the time limit in rapid fire is longer with the AR15. It has the same wind drift characteristics as the 7.62x51 or .30-06 at 600 yards (with 75 or 80 gr match bullets).

For practicality, I would choose the AR15 NM by Rock River. If you want to try one, we can arrainge it at the Southwest Gun Club.

Doug Bowser

by PhillipM on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:36 am

Doug Bowser wrote: So, what use would it be in match shooting against AR15 NM rifles.

Simple answer is I've always wanted to know what a good M1 could do. I don't shoot against AR-15's, I really only shoot against myself anyway, lol! All you said is true, however a match M1 can clean the target so I just need to hold a little tighter. If you think the M1 is bad, one day I'll cobble together a 1903 for XTC.

by Doug Bowser on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:48 am

Best of luck with your M1. I fired one at Camp Perry for 2 years. I did fairly well with it. That was in 1984-85

Doug

by shoeshooter on Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:36 am

PhillipM wrote:I'll do that shoe. It will be the weekend, probably the 16th.

16th is 22 match at Magnolia.

by M1GarandFan on Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:44 am

Nice choice, Phillip! thumbs up

That Birmingham show looks like my kind of gun show. I may have to arrange a weekend trip over there for one of them.

by PhillipM on Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:01 pm

Doug Bowser wrote:Phillip M ,

I never shot scores as high with the M1 as I did with the RR AR15A2 NM rifle. In the World of HP Rifle Shooting, a match grade M1 is really obsolete. As the other Phillip said, it can't be used in CMP Garand Matches. So, what use would it be in match shooting against AR15 NM rifles.

The AR15 NM rifle is easier to control in Rapid Fire. As a matter of fact, it feels like the time limit in rapid fire is longer with the AR15. It has the same wind drift characteristics as the 7.62x51 or .30-06 at 600 yards (with 75 or 80 gr match bullets).

For practicality, I would choose the AR15 NM by Rock River. If you want to try one, we can arrainge it at the Southwest Gun Club.

Doug Bowser

I missed the news that Match Garands have their own class! Now if only someone else would bring one out or build one...

6.4 Unlimited and Special Military Rifles
Match sponsors may, at their option, offer competition events or special category
competitions for modifi ed or special military rifl es that do not comply with Rule
6.3 for as-issued military rifl es. Scores fi red with rifl es in these classes must be
recorded and ranked separately from as-issued military rifl e scores (Rule 6.3) and
must not be reported to CMP as scores fi red with as-issued military rifl es. Recognized
Modifi ed and Special Military Rifl e Classes that may be used in CMPsanctioned
CMP Games Matches (Rule 3.0 and Rule 9.0) are:
6.4.1 Unlimited M1 Garand Rifl es
An Unlimited M1 Garand is an M1 Garand-type rifl e that does not comply with
Rule 6.3 for As-Issued M1 Garands. Unlimited M1 Garands may be fi red in a
sanctioned match if an Unlimited M1 Garand event or category is included in
the match program. Unlimited M1 Garands must have an M1 Garand external
confi guration, may weigh no more than 10.5 pounds and must have a trigger
pull of at least 4.5 pounds. Unlimited M1 Garands include, but are not limited
to the following:
(1) National Match M1 Garands or M1 Garands with “NM” parts other than
NM operating rods.
(2) M1 Garands modifi ed to fi re the 7.62mm NATO cartridge.
(3) M1 Garands with accurizing modifi cations such as glass bedding, sight
adjustments fi ner than one minute of angle, modifi ed upper hand guards,
etc.
(4) Commercial, replica or foreign manufactured M1 Garands.
(5) M1 Garands with U. S. Government glass bedding or shims.