Question regarding campus carry legality

Hello all. I am new to msgunowners.org but not to firearms or Second Amendment activism. I am a Firearms Permit holder and a college student and I have a question for those more educated than myself regarding Mississippi House Bill 0506. The bill as passed explicitly states that

"A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms......shall also be authorized to carry weapons in courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of Section 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined...."

My question is regarding the change this will make for student permit holders. On the one hand, the new law allows me to carry (with the endorsement) in any place forbidden in 45-9-101. On the other hand, MS Code 97-37-17 seems to make it a felony for a student to possess a firearm on any campus (even in a vehicle). This appears to be a legal contradiction, but I may very well be reading something improperly. I will be at the University of Southern Mississippi starting this fall and would like to get some clarification on this matter before the law takes effect on July 1st of this year.

Please advise. Thanks for your time.

There are those here on the site that have it figured out more than I do, but from what I understand from previous posts regarding Bill 506, you are correct. It's allowed in one place, and disallowed in another.

As a student myself, we seem to still be screwed in regards to being able to protect ourselves on campus.

It seems like a double standard. It is either allowed or not. Allowing permit holders to carry on campus but NOT students that are permit holders seems to be mutually exclusive. I suppose I need to find and ask a lawyer.

If you have not, read over the thread dedicated to that bill here on the site. LOTS of info there.

Welcome to the forum. There's a long thread (HB 508) on this topic in the "water cooler, gun laws" section. Most of us are still scratching our heads over this new amendment, & it seems nobody has been able to sort this murky mess out, due to the reason you put your finger on: legal contradictions.

Welcome again to the forum.

I've read two long threads regarding this bill and am now more confused than before. I had to get my drivers license renewed today and took the opportunity to ask about the new endorsement. The people at the Highway Patrol substation were, of course, clueless.

If there's consolation in any of this, most every state has a dog in this fight. Whether it will be a state-by-state loosening of the laws, or that (likely) the Supremes decide to weigh in, in which case you may be sure that the rulings by court will be very narrow rulings - each state will ultimately have to fight their own hard-won battles.

Only when the notion that safety/security trumps individual freedom has been laid to rest, will we begin to climb out of the hole the politicians have dug. Remember, by not contesting these burdensome laws, we unwittingly allowed them to dig that hole. Keep in mind too, of the global reach of so-called "international treaties", which trump our US Constitution. Obama and Sec Clinton will be pushing the "Small Arms Treaty" by flying it under the flag of "terrorist control". And they are betting Americans will not notice the implications of such a treaty. By such globalist imposition tactics, the Leftists are moving to pass laws which will usurp our American way of life, which includes the RKBA.

oh and then you still have campus policies...i took the time to look up USM's the other day and it says:

Firearms Policy

Possession of firearms on campus is prohibited by state law and university policy.

Failure to comply with university policy or state law will result in disciplinary action or criminal prosecution. Section 97-37-17 of the Mississippi Code makes it a felony for any student to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm on university property.

which tells me that, unfortunately, they're more interested in 97-37-17, than 506.....

Thinking about posting some of these up on the bulletin boards around campus though

i like that! i too am interested in this. in the fall i will be driving from holcomb to ole miss and will be leaving before daylight some parts of the year and getting home after dark some parts of the year and i want to be protected!

I recently got my CCW and am a student at Ole Miss, so I've been following 506 also. Really hope they get it worked out soon. I've seen how long it takes the LEOs to respond to the safety boxes around campus, and even though Oxford is supposedly safe, I'd rather take responsibility for my own protection.

ree_countrygirl wrote:i like that! i too am interested in this. in the fall i will be driving from holcomb to ole miss and will be leaving before daylight some parts of the year and getting home after dark some parts of the year and i want to be protected!

IslandTimes wrote:I recently got my CCW and am a student at Ole Miss, so I've been following 506 also. Really hope they get it worked out soon. I've seen how long it takes the LEOs to respond to the safety boxes around campus, and even though Oxford is supposedly safe, I'd rather take responsibility for my own protection.

I went to Ole Miss, too. If it was safe in my time, it is safe no longer - and I know what campus security is like there. They can't protect you, and you are responsible for your own safety.

And ree_countrygirl, given your situation (driving alone, dark coming and going), who can protect you, if not yourself? Do what you have to do.

ree_countrygirl, I have a couple friends who park off campus to avoid paying for a parking pass, so if you wanted to keep a gun in your car you could do that. There's a commuter parking lot on the edge of campus that a public road runs into, so people just park on that road. You have a longer walk to class, but it could be worth it.

While this works for Ole Miss, it may not for anywhere else. YMMV.

thats a good idea and good to know. i got a letter from the chief the other day welcoming me and all that crap and i've thought about contacting them and seeing if i could leave my gun at their office or at the opd's office or something along those lines. i think its stupid that college students cant protect themselves!

Kept a shotgun im my dorm room at State in the late 70's. Had permission from campus security. Different world now.

Yeah, I would like copies myself.

Scharfschuetze wrote:Thinking about posting some of these up on the bulletin boards around campus though

Where can I find printable copies of these? I will post them in my classroom and on campus!
That'll drive some of the libs here NUTS [/quote]

Students for concealed carry on campus posted it on Facebook yesterday, because this week is their big empty holster protest.

I just clicked on it and used the link to post it here, if you use edit or quote the address for it should show up, then you could save it and make it fit a page.

Their site is concealedcampus.org

There also used to be a tshirt on tshirthell.com that said something like "school shooting tour 92-2002" and listed off all of the ones from the time including the high schools. It was meant in a more crude fashion most likely, but amusing and true nonetheless