best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:23 pm

Well, I'm at it again. I still can't shake the itch to kill a deer with a handgun. After much brain storming I always seem to come to the conclusion that a TC Encore pistol would be the best tool for the job. It's very versatile. My question is: What would be the best caliber / barrel length and why? I'd like to be able to make 200 yard shots but will settle for less if necessary. Recoil is of slight concern. I'm not really recoil sensitive but I don't want to be sore after a few rounds either. Ammo price isn't a big deal because I'd be hand loading for it anyway. I'd like to stick to flat-shooting rifle calibers (100 gr +) that would still carry enough momentum to the target to get the job done but I'm open to other suggestions.

Most calibers have drastic changes to trajectory and velocity when you rob 10 or so inches of barrel length. What caliber would still be predictable and effective when fired from a handgun?

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:44 pm

On a side note, I found this website: matchgrademachine.com. They offer Encore barrels in every caliber under the sun.

......45-120 Sharps, perhaps? : )

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by ree_countrygirl on Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:46 pm

never shot an encore but i love my ruger and its a .44 mag and i havent had any complaints for hunting

ree_countrygirl
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 1028
Join date: 2010-02-25
Age: 23
Location: Coffeeville, Ms

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by msredneck on Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:51 pm

So you wanna shoot an encore pistol...but with Rifle cartridges/barrels

If I were doing that...I'd give the 7mm-08 a whirl

msredneck
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Posts: 15522
Join date: 2009-04-20
Age: 55
Location: Clinton, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Beladran on Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:24 pm

Man forget all that lol you need a 375jdj... that round was designed to do exactly what you want

Beladran
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 8362
Join date: 2009-04-16
Age: 31
Location: Madison

http://Junikerjewelry.com

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:40 pm

375jdj ? ....... I don't know man. How bad is the recoil on that thing? A caliber that is considered large enough to drop literally any animal that walks may be too much for whitetail.

I've been thinking more along the lines of 7-08, 308, 243, and 25-06. Still I'd be lying if I said the thought of a 375 jdj didn't sound pretty cool

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by GunOneDown on Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:52 pm

The S&W460 is what I'd have, o I do , it is capable of taking elk at 200 if u do your part plus u get 5 chances. Now the biggest plus, it's a 3 caliber gun. .460S&W, 454Casull, & 45 Long Colt.
They are awesome.

GunOneDown
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Posts: 3822
Join date: 2009-04-20
Age: 44
Location: "Da Kill",MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by msredneck on Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:56 pm

I thought we had established already that it was gonna be a TC Encore....

G1D's 460 is bad ass

Personally I think a 200 yard shot on a deer with a handgun is a bit much to ask...

Yeah I know you CAN do it...

msredneck
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Posts: 15522
Join date: 2009-04-20
Age: 55
Location: Clinton, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by 22lrfan on Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:09 pm

7mm TCU was designed for knocking down the rams at 200 meters with a TC. Works good in the short barrel and it's easy to load.

22lrfan
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 6289
Join date: 2010-08-31
Age: 55
Location: Rankin Co.

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by nonnieselman on Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:25 am

I really wanna take a deer with my xd40 this year. For what your wanting, i havent a clue. I think a 7-08 would do it. But for that matter any of those listed would work. I like the 44mag.

nonnieselman
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 3480
Join date: 2010-01-20
Age: 29
Location: Crystal Springs

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Xd357 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:01 am

I think is kinda takes away from killing a deer with a rifle cal pistol. If your going to do it then use a pistol cal.

Xd357
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 10009
Join date: 2009-08-11
Location: Edwards

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by deerhunter86 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:08 am

I have a encore in 708. Its Awsome . I practice with a 223 barrel . Off Sand bags using the 223 I can shoot a pie plate 4 out of 5 times with cheap surplus ammo. The 708 barrel shoots clover leaf groups at 100 yards . I cheat tho I have a 3x12 power Burris scope on it and detachable rings so I can switch it between barrels . Im wanting a big wheel gun tho

deerhunter86
Veteran Poster
Veteran Poster

Posts: 319
Join date: 2010-03-02
Age: 28
Location: macomb area

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by 3spop on Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:29 am

41 mag!

3spop
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Posts: 1673
Join date: 2009-05-24
Age: 40
Location: Clarksdale

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by miker84 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:55 am

Xd357 wrote:I think is kinda takes away from killing a deer with a rifle cal pistol. If your going to do it then use a pistol cal.

That's what I'm talking about. thumbs up

miker84
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 8159
Join date: 2010-03-15
Location: Undisclosed FEMA Camp

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Beladran on Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:03 am

Caleb C wrote:375jdj ? ....... I don't know man. How bad is the recoil on that thing? A caliber that is considered large enough to drop literally any animal that walks may be too much for whitetail.

I've been thinking more along the lines of 7-08, 308, 243, and 25-06. Still I'd be lying if I said the thought of a 375 jdj didn't sound pretty cool

i kill deer with it every year, all depends on how you load them and what bullet you pick.. if you have a pistol frame i will mail you my barrel and a box of ammo to try out

Beladran
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 8362
Join date: 2009-04-16
Age: 31
Location: Madison

http://Junikerjewelry.com

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:34 am

Beladran wrote:
Caleb C wrote:375jdj ? ....... I don't know man. How bad is the recoil on that thing? A caliber that is considered large enough to drop literally any animal that walks may be too much for whitetail.

I've been thinking more along the lines of 7-08, 308, 243, and 25-06. Still I'd be lying if I said the thought of a 375 jdj didn't sound pretty cool

i kill deer with it every year, all depends on how you load them and what bullet you pick.. if you have a pistol frame i will mail you my barrel and a box of ammo to try out

Thanks for the offer. It's very much appreciated. I haven't got a pistol frame yet. The committee (my wife) has to vote on my "toy" purchases now. Gun funds aren't looking too good at the moment but I may end up trading into one or finding a good used frame somewhere.

If any of ya'll run across somebody wanting to get rid of one let me know.

Do you have any trouble forming the 375 JDJ brass? I've never tried to neck down any brass.

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by GunOneDown on Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:37 am

CalebC, u better jump on that offer from Beledran. That is a most generous offer that can't be turned down.

GunOneDown
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Posts: 3822
Join date: 2009-04-20
Age: 44
Location: "Da Kill",MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Beladran on Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:51 am

brass is super easy to make. just run a 444marlin case in the sizer and presto!

Beladran
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 8362
Join date: 2009-04-16
Age: 31
Location: Madison

http://Junikerjewelry.com

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:51 am

GunOneDown wrote:CalebC, u better jump on that offer from Beledran. That is a most generous offer that can't be turned down.

As soon as I can come up with a pistol frame I will. Just hope it doesn't take too long. The closer we get to deer season the less folks will be willing to part with their hunting stuff even if it is temporary.

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Joe S. on Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:23 pm

MOA maximum. sweet! 308 winchester... Smile

otherwise, i like my 44 mag SBH bisley hunter

Joe S.
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 5899
Join date: 2009-08-11
Age: 38
Location: Clinton

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by tek4260 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:01 pm

I am getting where I handgun hunt only here lately and I have tried a Contender. The size and weight was a turn off(and its a compact compared to an Encore) and the ballistics aren't any better that revolver calibers shot from revolvers IMHO. I have used 41, 44, 45, 454, 480, and 475L. There isn't enough difference from deer to deer to tell a difference, so it really doesn't matter what you use. Just make sure you can shoot it well. I thought I was good enough a few years ago. I grew up shooting pistols and revolvers off the bridges at snakes, turtles, cans, and whatever else happened to be down there and usually hit what I was shooting at. When I decided I wanted to hunt deer, I sat up a target and proceeded to see just how far I was good enough to take a shot at.....

Its a real eye opener when you shoot groups on paper and not at something. Smile

tek4260
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 1427
Join date: 2011-03-26
Age: 99
Location: Carroll County, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Joe S. on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:06 pm

Just ask ree what she thinks of handgun hunting. Wink

Joe S.
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 5899
Join date: 2009-08-11
Age: 38
Location: Clinton

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:05 am

GunOneDown wrote:The S&W460 is what I'd have, o I do , it is capable of taking elk at 200 if u do your part plus u get 5 chances. Now the biggest plus, it's a 3 caliber gun. .460S&W, 454Casull, & 45 Long Colt.
They are awesome.

OK, Gunny. I did a little research on this 460 S&W. I had no idea that it was such a speed freak. It's capable or pushing a 300gr bullet faster than a 45-70 out of equal length barrels. Something like 2000 fps out of a 12" barrel. That pretty impressive. How's the recoil? Any trouble to reload? I understand that it's got to have a heavy roll crimp to prevent bullet jump before all the powder is ignited. I'm not accustomed to crimping.

If I did go this route I'd use a 15" barrel. Anybody have any idea what kind of bullet drop I could expect at 200 yrds using a 300 gr bullet?

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Beladran on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:50 am

BC is gonna play a major part in drop so if your using a sleek flex tip its not gonna drop as much as a lead flat nose

Beladran
Moderator
Moderator

Posts: 8362
Join date: 2009-04-16
Age: 31
Location: Madison

http://Junikerjewelry.com

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by RetarDead on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:57 pm

I'm going to try out my 10mm Delta Elite this winter ..

RetarDead
New Member
New Member

Posts: 4
Join date: 2011-02-07
Age: 30
Location: meridian

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by fugan601 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:08 am

Photobucket
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w256/lilbit11888/460SW.jpg

This is my brothers 460 s&w.Dont know much about it, he bought it when he moved to Montana and all the mods had already been done.What I do know is that when i shot that blast it puts out is crazy, think its from the cylinder gap not to sure but I guess that is expected.Other than that this is definetly a beast of a handgun.Might be a bit much for are game around here though.

fugan601
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 724
Join date: 2011-02-02
Location: Jackson,Ms

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by tek4260 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:51 am

That thing is just wrong on so many levels! Smile

tek4260
Distinguished Poster
Distinguished Poster

Posts: 1427
Join date: 2011-03-26
Age: 99
Location: Carroll County, MS

Back to top Go down

Re: best caliber for taking deer with a handgun?

Post by Caleb C on Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:06 am

That would make one cool carry gun : )

Caleb C
Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Posts: 2179
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 31
Location: Lake, MS

Back to top Go down

Magnum Research BFR

Post by chainsaw51 on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:12 am

I had a Magnum Research BFR in 45/70. It was a handfull But I liked it. Nothing stays around here very long so it went out the door for a HK 91.

chainsaw51
Veteran Poster
Veteran Poster

Posts: 376
Join date: 2009-09-24
Age: 63
Location: Brandon, Ms.

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum