Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
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Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Have there been any or many prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"? I'm referring to the private establishments that have posted a sign at it's entrance.
Would the property owner have to press charges?
Would the property owner have to press charges?

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
I would think if it was a government gun free zone, no one would have to file charges. If it is a private business, they'd have to press charges. Good question.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
i'm not familiar with any particular cases, but if it's private property that is in question the property owner would most likely be the one to sign charges. if it is posted and a leo witnesses you violating it, they could arrest you and sign the affidavit. from experience, however, incidences on private property are usually left to the discretion of the property owner.
that's the best i can do. i'm sure there have been people charged with it though.
that's the best i can do. i'm sure there have been people charged with it though.

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
I've not heard of any. I imagine as long as the person does not open carry, or flash it around, or does not attempt to use it in self-defense, it would be kind of like the expired tag law: most LEOs ignore them unless the vehicle is stopped for other reasons.
Kind of a "not worth the trouble" situation I suspect.
And, by the way, I'd rather face prosecution for violating some place's gun ban than be pushing up daisies from lack of protection.
As they say, "Better to be tried by 12..."
Kind of a "not worth the trouble" situation I suspect.
And, by the way, I'd rather face prosecution for violating some place's gun ban than be pushing up daisies from lack of protection.
As they say, "Better to be tried by 12..."

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
NRA_guy wrote:And, by the way, I'd rather face prosecution for violating some place's gun ban than be pushing up daisies from lack of protection.
I agree.
My thinking is as long a you truly keep concealed you'd prolly wouldn't have a problem and if you ended up having to defend yourself I doubt a property owner would press charges unless you hit an innocent in the process.

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
NRA_guy wrote:or does not attempt to use it in self-defense
And, by the way, I'd rather face prosecution for violating some place's gun ban than be pushing up daisies from lack of protection.
As they say, "Better to be tried by 12..."
i'd like to think if you used it in self defense, the owner would do the right thing, and thank you...but i'm an optimist

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
i've never been 'made' in many years of carrying. i have no reason to think i'd be 'made' carrying in a gun free zone. just my thoughts.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Just curious, what would the charges be if they were pressed? Fine? Jailtime?

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Good question!dbarnes357 wrote:Just curious, what would the charges be if they were pressed? Fine? Jailtime?
Felony or misdemeanor?

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
If it were in a government gun free zone, you could lose you're right to carry. I don't think they could do much in a private business since their little signs don't mean squat legally, especially if you didn't see it.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Let's assume a private establishment with legal signage.
(This may be a rare instance indeed but humor me.)
(This may be a rare instance indeed but humor me.)

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Jarhead5811 wrote:Have there been any or many prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"? I'm referring to the private establishments that have posted a sign at it's entrance.
Would the property owner have to press charges?
for PRIVATE property carry, it would be a trespass. misdemeanor.
for carrying in a school, etc... felony.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Being a trespass charge would mean the owner/manager would have to press charges, right?

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Jarhead5811 wrote:Being a trespass charge would mean the owner/manager would have to press charges, right?
honestly? i don't know. my criminal practice never involved trespass type charges.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
I can't help but wonder if some of the businesses that post these signs misunderstand their purpose and think they're necessary to somehow prevent anyone from carrying a firearm on their property.
Ya'll gotta admit there are some real dumb a__es out there.
Ya'll gotta admit there are some real dumb a__es out there.

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Jarhead5811 wrote:I can't help but wonder if some of the businesses that post these signs misunderstand their purpose and think they're necessary to somehow prevent anyone from carrying a firearm on their property.
Ya'll gotta admit there are some real dumb a__es out there.
a lot of them mistakenly equate firearm carry with liability, and that if they don't say "don't carry a gun here", if you do and shoot someone, they end up being liable.... however, that is not the case.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Thanks all, good discussion here.

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
Jarhead5811 wrote:I can't help but wonder if some of the businesses that post these signs misunderstand their purpose and think they're necessary to somehow prevent anyone from carrying a firearm on their property.
Ya'll gotta admit there are some real dumb a__es out there.
If they got a sign up they must not need my business so I'll make them happy, I'll help their sales in this economy and go elsewhere. And check back later to see if their still in business.
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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
I agree, I'm even libertarian enough to say they should have the right to post such a sign but they're not getting my money if they do.
I was posing the question mostly for one of those instances don't you don't notice the sign and inadvertently violate their wishes.
Of course from what I've read on here most signs, especially the ones you might miss, aren't posted in a manner that meets the standards required by law making them invalid anyway.
I was posing the question mostly for one of those instances don't you don't notice the sign and inadvertently violate their wishes.
Of course from what I've read on here most signs, especially the ones you might miss, aren't posted in a manner that meets the standards required by law making them invalid anyway.

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Re: Prosecutions in MS for a permit holder carrying in a "gun free zone"?
sidroski wrote:If it were in a government gun free zone, you could lose you're right to carry. I don't think they could do much in a private business since their little signs don't mean squat legally, especially if you didn't see it.
you could loose your obligation of paying the politicians to grant you permission to carry.
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