US Military Sniper ammo

In the old days they used 168 gr Sierra Match Kings, 41.5 gr IMR 4895 and Federal Match Primers. The Federal 168 gr Match ammo is the same load.

Doug

someone correct me but i think they are buying the 175 bergers...

Doug Bowser wrote:In the old days they used 168 gr Sierra Match Kings, 41.5 gr IMR 4895 and Federal Match Primers. The Federal 168 gr Match ammo is the same load.

Doug

Beladran wrote:someone correct me but i think they are buying the 175 bergers...

miker84 wrote:According to the latest episode of "Student of the Gun", they are using a 175 smk.

.... it must be "TOP SECRET"!!

dis information..

I remember the History Channel doing a show on the sniper school and the rilfes. The ammo was all handloaded and matched to each rifle, don't remember exactly what they loaded but it wasn't anything a civilian couldn't duplicate.

M118lr and yes you can buy it

http://usarmorment.com/m118lr-762-175-gr-long-range-sniper-ammunition-100-rounds-p-1.html?currency=USD

Meyers is correct

msredneck wrote:Meyers is correct

Maybe in the 308/7.62 NATO round, but I am with Bubba-T when it comes to 300 Win Mag, 338 Laupa and maybe even 50 BMG sniper ammo.



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308 is God's caliber

I know they are switching some to 300 Win Mag for a little more umph

msredneck wrote:308 is God's caliber ..............................

A BIG +1 there......



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Can US snipers get away with using hollow-point ammo....? I guess you have to catch the sniper first.........



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jbpmidas wrote:I have read that they can use the BTHP design because it is not designed to expand upon impact.

Such --- You can drop a 14,000,000 grain bomb on 'em; but, can't shot 'em with 175 grains of lead ....

The U.S. while it abides by the Hauge Agreements of 1899 and 1907 that bans expanding bullets in conflicts the U.S. never signed either so we aren't really bound by it.

Here's a memo by the U.S. Commander of Spec Ops on the BTHP
http://www.thegunzone.com/opentip-ammo.html

WOW..... good reading there Bubba-T.......... Thanks.



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Very, very interesting ----

Statistics from past wars suggest that this probability figure may be optimistic. In World War II, the United States and its allies expended 25,000 rounds of ammunition to kill a single enemy soldier. In the Korean War, the ammunition expenditure had increased four-fold to 100,000 rounds per soldier; in the Vietnam War, that figure had doubled to 200,000 rounds of ammunition for the death of a single enemy soldier. The risk to noncombatants is apparent.

msredneck wrote:308 is God's caliber

I know they are switching some to 300 Win Mag for a little more umph

The 338LM with 300gr Match King MORE umph and less drift!!! And yet, still easy to pack.

One of the main factors USA went from 30'06 and 308 was logistics

During Vietnam War when you were loading up ammo on the ships and cargo planes....You could send a whole lot more 223 than you could 308, 30'06....imagine how much more weight a million rds of 308 is compared to 223...Then there's the weight for the soldier who has to "hump" that rifle and ammo in the field

Not to mention the fact that no one could hit anything with a 308 AR on full auto...Eugene Stoner's orginal AR was the AR 10...not the AR15

So I can see why the military switched.....Wounding a soldier is just as good at winning a war as dead ones...It takes a lot of support folks to take care of wounded....slows folks down


We got plenty of bad boy toys to throw at the evil guys these days with Barrett 50's etc but the M118 is "the round"

I'd still prefer to load my own

223 is starting to grow on me...as long as its shot out of a bolt rifle