To "C" or not to "C" on a Glock 23?

I recently purchased a Ruger LCP for all around carry but want something larger for when I feel more at risk or have wardrobe that it works well with.

After much debating and between the subcompact and compact Glocks and the I've decided that my next weapon will likely be a Glock 23. The "baby" Glocks just don't offer alot to hold on to and the 19/23 is quite concealable IMHO. I used to have a 19C and loved it. I had a 19C and loved it but the only other 9mm I have any meaningful time on is a M9/92FS. The 19C was a lot of fun to shoot and seemed to be easier to shoot rapid fire. This could be a fundamental Glock characteristic but I always thought the compensator slits had a lot to do with it.

So, in my new Glock 23 would you get a 23C or straight 23?
(Try to disregard the cost difference.)

Why?

(Like any loyal John Boy and Billy listener I voted "C"!)

there wasnt a 1911 option????

Beladran wrote:there wasnt a 1911 option????

Actually that comes later. When funds are more abundant.

I don't think the compensated Glocks lend themselve very well for CC. Reasons being that you're more likely to find the need to defend yourself after dark and the compensator will momentarily blind you, however, with that said, I think you'd be better served with a Glock 27 with a mag extension. That extension makes all the difference in the world and the baby Glocks are so much easier to conceil. I've owned a 26 and a 19 and there's a ton of difference in conceilability. I'd just as soon try to carry a FS weapon as a 19, but I am a smaller person and that does make a lot of difference. I just find that the baby Glocks point a lot better for me than the larger ones do. I also like the M&P compacts, both in 9 and 40. About the same size with a little more capacity. My G26 with the extension holds 11+1 and my stock M&P9c holds 12 +1. Both have been absolutely flawlessly dependable. If I had to pick one when the SHTF, I'd probably grab the M&P. Also, saw the M&P compacts advertised online today at Jet Guns for $439. Can't even find a used Glock for that.

Hrdnox wrote:I don't think the compensated Glocks lend themselve very well for CC. Reasons being that you're more likely to find the need to defend yourself after dark and the compensator will momentarily blind you, however, with that said, I think you'd be better served with a Glock 27 with a mag extension. That extension makes all the difference in the world and the baby Glocks are so much easier to conceil. I've owned a 26 and a 19 and there's a ton of difference in conceilability. I'd just as soon try to carry a FS weapon as a 19, but I am a smaller person and that does make a lot of difference. I just find that the baby Glocks point a lot better for me than the larger ones do. I also like the M&P compacts, both in 9 and 40. About the same size with a little more capacity. My G26 with the extension holds 11+1 and my stock M&P9c holds 12 +1. Both have been absolutely flawlessly dependable. If I had to pick one when the SHTF, I'd probably grab the M&P. Also, saw the M&P compacts advertised online today at Jet Guns for $439. Can't even find a used Glock for that.

What he said! The .40 might be snappy......but it's not so snappy that you can justify a ported barrel....and remember a "compact" glock is what most other companies consider full size ha.... I'm really wanting a baby glock personally

Except you can find a used glock for that price. Saw several at vans today that were police trade ins....mostly baby Glocks though I think. They were $439 though as I recall

The resale value of Glocks makes me sick.....honestly I'd rather buy a brand new one...unless you want a certain generation it's pointless to buy a used glock, because even someone's beaten and abused glock goes for $450+, and a new one can be found for that price +/-

I agree with both posts above. I shot both models back and forth and there was less recoil on the C model but it shots everything up. If you had to do a retention shoot you may get alot of junk blown towards you maybe even your face.

My stepbrother is a cop. Does anyone know much about the legalities around him buying me one with his discount?

It's been suggested he could "loan" it to me until a certain period had passed and then "sell" it to me. Of course with a wink and a nod, he'd of course, actually get the cash up front. He said LE price on most Glocks was around $425.

If you want a Glock for the right price you should join GSSF. You can by one Glock per year from participating dealers. The cost is around wholesale and it's the LE package with three mags. Basicly you save $100 and get a free mag.

I'd also go non-ported on a carry piece. Those ports can make for an unpleasant flash in low light situations. You'll also have to be cautious of expanding gasses and copper shavings from the bullet coming through the ports. This is bad news if you ever have to fire across your body or from the hip for any reason. The ported Glocks are fun but save it for the range. Non-ported is more practical for CCW.

Hmmm...food for thought.

It seems reasonable that a shot from the hip from a "C" would be quite deafening in a real life situation where hearing protection wouldn't come into play.

The noise is only half of the concern. Y'all also have to consider what other things could come out of those ports. Small pieces of copper to the face could send you to the hospital along with the fella you're "negotiating" with.

Caleb C wrote:The noise is only half of the concern. Y'all also have to consider what other things could come out of those ports. Small pieces of copper to the face could send you to the hospital along with the fella you're "negotiating" with.

Agreed, the tiniest thing in your eye can shut down that eye. I was once in the pits when a small fragment of the target got in my eye and sent me to medical to have it flushed. I had a slight scratch according to the Corpsman treating me but more significantly I would have been greatly impaired in a self defense senario.

As far as legalities of him selling to you, there aren't any, other than Glock's own guidelines. As long as the two of you keep it to yourselves, no one should be the wiser. It might limit his abilities to buy another, but I don't know if there's a LE limit or not. Even if there was, I'm sure it's only a time limit that would renew. Are you still in the Marines? If so, you may qualify for a discount on your own. I believe that even reserves and/or during stop loss qualifies. I'm sure any FFL that handles Glocks could fill you in on that. Van's should be able to tell you what you need to know. If I were you, I'd make a trip over there anyway to check out those LE trade ins for $439. You don't see many advertised here that cheap and you can't wear one out. I've owned a dozen or so used Glocks and they've all performed flawlessly.

+1 on the used Glocks. The police trades are especially good. They show a lot of holster wear but usually have a low round count. Besides that, parts are cheap and readily available from lots of different sources.

Vans does not offer the GSSF discount but they do have the LE packages on new Glocks. If I'm not mistaken a current military ID will qualify you for the LE guns.

My G23 is not as "compact" as a true compact.....however, the frame is thin enough to be comfortable, frame is short enough to be comfortable, and 13 rds of 40 is more than enough for CC defense. Love mine....carry in a supertuck.

I got out 11 years ago. I use Jarhead5811 because I was in the Corps when I started my "online life".

I think I'll keep my options open. I'm in the process of paying off what's left of my non mortgage debt and refinancing my 30 year 5.8% mortgage to a 10 year 3.3%. Meanwhile my "gun money" is quite limited.

I'll probably be listing some things on here, and Craigslist, soon to try and scrape enough together to cover my next purchase.

I'm even turning the sale of my Colt Competition HBAR over in my mind but just can't bring myself to act on it.

I also voted non-c for the reasons stated above.

Ok, 100% against. Mine don't really count!

Actually, your vote is the "only" one that really counts.

The rest are really nothing more than opinions.

You're gonna carry it, we aren't. About all we're good for is sharing our experiences. Beyond that, it's all on your shoulders.

But, we do try hard to be as accurate as we can and I'm sure all of us are hoping we provided a little useful information.

I wouldn't bother with a compensated gun.

If you ever decide to shoot IPSC with it, a compensated gun will put you into Open class with the full-blown raceguns.

I don't know what I'll end up with but the argument against a "C" is quite perswasive. I enjoyed shooting paper with one in broad daylight but never tried anything else.

On top of that they do cost more and probaly reduce downrange energy slightly. I may get a 17C for the range one day but y'all have convinced me to not get one for concealed carry, now.