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Post by James D. on Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:07 pm

I've fired an M24 rifle at Fort Benning and enjoyed it, so needless to say, you could call me a Remington 700 fan. But outside of that experience, I have very little experience with bolt action rifles, and no experience with any other caliber but .308 & .50 BMG.

I'm very interested in the .300 Win Mag for it's muzzle energy and velocity, also price per box of 20 seems to be affordable for shooting fun.

So far, I've found the Mossberg 4x4 to be very affordable, although I'd be more interested in the ATR, but I do not believe it's available in the given caliber.

I would think that a heavier free-floating barrel would be far more accurate and desirable compared to a standard smaller diameter barrel. Is fluting really that important?

Kinda point me in the right direction here. What rifle system would you fellas recommend?

I'm looking for something with a synth stock, at least a 3 round internal mag capacity, and under $700 that COULD reach out & touch a thousand yards if I really wanted to.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by jbpmidas on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:51 pm

If you want affordable shhoting fun, I would stay away from .300 Win Mag! I believe factory ammo is quite expensive.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by James D. on Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:14 pm

$20-28 per box of 20 is expensive?

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by dbarnes357 on Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:32 pm

Check out the Savage bolt guns. Bullet has posted about his 116FHSS in .300 WM, and it's accuracy in this thread:
http://www.msgunowners.com/t14151-300win-mag-still-shooting-good

His gun is stock and getting crazy accuracy. A quick Google search shows several guns for under 700 bucks. If I was looking at a .300 mag, that's the gun that I'd put my money into.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by suberjc on Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:49 am

Boy have I got a deal for you.
'Snip from the F-Class/1000 topic'

Accuracy International in 300 Win Mag with a 26" barrell

'Un-snip'

Might want to read it first though.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by tek4260 on Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:16 am

A used Sendero seems like the obvious choice to me Smile

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by msredneck on Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:38 am

I have two 300 Win Mags and recoil is just not that bad...granted 20 plus shots in 20 min in a F class match would make for a real hot hunting barrel

keep in mind that our poster is 23 years young according to his profile.

Too each his own

You want Power - ? Could I interest you in a 300 Weatherby Magnum? Weatherby Vanguard's synthetic. I have two of these as well...makes a 300 Win feel like a pop gun

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by James D. on Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:26 pm

Thanks for the link, Dbarnes, will read over there after I post. I'm aware there are a lot of rifles available for less than $700, which is why I'm asking for input. I've heard tremendously great things about savage, but have no hands-on experience with them.

Those Accuracy International's are pretty awesome, Suberjc, but I'd rather be able to pay my bills before attempting to purchase one, LOL. Thank you though.

This was my first choice, tek.. good eye!


I've seen the Vangaurd and liked it. After comparing the .300 Weatherby to the Win mag, I feel that as powerful as it is, the .300 Win Mag will accomplish anything I want it to do and then some. Probably won't be hunting much, but if I ever did decide to go stalk some deer, the rifle in question is what I would be using.


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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by suberjc on Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:36 pm

James D. wrote:
Those Accuracy International's are pretty awesome, Suberjc, but I'd rather be able to pay my bills before attempting to purchase one, LOL. Thank you though.


Understood. I personally don't shoot anything but a Savage. (Well, Savage/Brux.)

Savage has engineered into the manufacturing process certain features that still have to be gun-smithed into the previously "most accurate" brand.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by James D. on Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:43 pm

suberjc wrote:
James D. wrote:
Those Accuracy International's are pretty awesome, Suberjc, but I'd rather be able to pay my bills before attempting to purchase one, LOL. Thank you though.


Understood. I personally don't shoot anything but a Savage. (Well, Savage/Brux.)

Savage has engineered into the manufacturing process certain features that still have to be gun-smithed into the previously "most accurate" brand.


You've got my attention, would you elaborate please?



***Edit***

Actually, now that I've really looked into savage, they have "educational videos" about their "Accuracy & Quality". I've heard a lot of good things about savage, but never felt the need to learn more about them, as until now, I have had little to no interest in long rifles.

My general curiosity here is with the Accu Trigger, & Accu Stock, can I find a production savage rifle with a "bull barrel" or Heavy barrel that fits into my $700 price range?

I would be fine with 24, or 26 inch barrel lengths, but I feel that anything longer is just over kill for my purposes.

So... hypothetically, I go to shooting with some folks, can we run 100-200 rounds through a regular barreled rifle in .300 winmag without damaging it, or do I need the larger diameter barrel to do this (firing that amount of rounds in one day)? If not, what are my limitations? This is my only interest with the larger diameter barrel. Skool me guys!

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by Stryker6 on Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:08 pm

Savage 110FP

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by James D. on Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:34 pm

That's exactly what I had in mind, but it's not easy finding it in .300 Winmag.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by dbarnes357 on Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:39 pm

James D. wrote:That's exactly what I had in mind, but it's not easy finding it in .300 Winmag.


I had originally thought that was a typo until I did some looking, I didn't know Savage ever made a 110 FP in .300WM, but I guess you learn something everyday. If you could find one at close to the MSRP that would be an awesome deal.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by Stryker6 on Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:21 pm

James D. wrote:
suberjc wrote:
James D. wrote:
Those Accuracy International's are pretty awesome, Suberjc, but I'd rather be able to pay my bills before attempting to purchase one, LOL. Thank you though.


Understood. I personally don't shoot anything but a Savage. (Well, Savage/Brux.)

Savage has engineered into the manufacturing process certain features that still have to be gun-smithed into the previously "most accurate" brand.


You've got my attention, would you elaborate please?



***Edit***

Actually, now that I've really looked into savage, they have "educational videos" about their "Accuracy & Quality". I've heard a lot of good things about savage, but never felt the need to learn more about them, as until now, I have had little to no interest in long rifles.

My general curiosity here is with the Accu Trigger, & Accu Stock, can I find a production savage rifle with a "bull barrel" or Heavy barrel that fits into my $700 price range?

I would be fine with 24, or 26 inch barrel lengths, but I feel that anything longer is just over kill for my purposes.

So... hypothetically, I go to shooting with some folks, can we run 100-200 rounds through a regular barreled rifle in .300 winmag without damaging it, or do I need the larger diameter barrel to do this (firing that amount of rounds in one day)? If not, what are my limitations? This is my only interest with the larger diameter barrel. Skool me guys!


You will be fine shooting 100-200 rounds, You just need to let the barrel cool down between groups. I usually shoot a five shot group then let the rifle sit for 10 min to cool back down. I also clean the barrel after every 20 round.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by grasshopper on Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:39 pm

Savage! 300 Win Mag Model 110 FP or 300 WSM model 10 FP. I have both and they are ballistic twins up to 180 grain bullets. The 300 WSM actually has less recoil. In a Savage tactical rifle they are great.


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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by BigDaddyQ on Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:49 pm

Don't forget the winchester model 77. I have it in .338 win mag and absolutely love it.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by suberjc on Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:40 am

James D. wrote:
suberjc wrote:
James D. wrote:
Those Accuracy International's are pretty awesome, Suberjc, but I'd rather be able to pay my bills before attempting to purchase one, LOL. Thank you though.


Understood. I personally don't shoot anything but a Savage. (Well, Savage/Brux.)

Savage has engineered into the manufacturing process certain features that still have to be gun-smithed into the previously "most accurate" brand.


You've got my attention, would you elaborate please?



***Edit***

Actually, now that I've really looked into savage, they have "educational videos" about their "Accuracy & Quality". I've heard a lot of good things about savage, but never felt the need to learn more about them, as until now, I have had little to no interest in long rifles.

My general curiosity here is with the Accu Trigger, & Accu Stock, can I find a production savage rifle with a "bull barrel" or Heavy barrel that fits into my $700 price range?

I would be fine with 24, or 26 inch barrel lengths, but I feel that anything longer is just over kill for my purposes.

So... hypothetically, I go to shooting with some folks, can we run 100-200 rounds through a regular barreled rifle in .300 winmag without damaging it, or do I need the larger diameter barrel to do this (firing that amount of rounds in one day)? If not, what are my limitations? This is my only interest with the larger diameter barrel. Skool me guys!


Well, I like the accutrigger just fine. (The Target Accutrigger) My needs may be different than yours. I shoot 60 rounds in 60 minutes 2-3 times a month in all kinds of weather - and do some light practice in between matches. What I actually had reference to in my earlier post was the floating bolt head/face. This causes the bolt lugs to bear fully flat on the action lugs without having to be smithed. This goes a long way toward creating a blueprinted action in manufacture. Now the Accu-Stock may benefit the 300 WM just fine, however, if you'll notice on the website, none of their target models have it. It entirely depends on your intended use for the rifle. Can't go wrong with Savage.

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by James D. on Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:42 pm

suberjc wrote:Well, I like the accutrigger just fine. (The Target Accutrigger) My needs may be different than yours. I shoot 60 rounds in 60 minutes 2-3 times a month in all kinds of weather - and do some light practice in between matches. What I actually had reference to in my earlier post was the floating bolt head/face. This causes the bolt lugs to bear fully flat on the action lugs without having to be smithed. This goes a long way toward creating a blueprinted action in manufacture. Now the Accu-Stock may benefit the 300 WM just fine, however, if you'll notice on the website, none of their target models have it. It entirely depends on your intended use for the rifle. Can't go wrong with Savage.


Awesome, the more I learn about Savage, the happier I am! Are you firing 60 rounds an hour with .300 WM? Any kind of special butt plate you're using to reduce felt recoil on your shoulder?

My intentions for this rifle are basically just goofing fun, shooting things at long distance. I don't think I'll ever need a long range SHTF rifle, so my needs are kind of simple. Just something to plink with, and maybe hunt with if I ever decide to. I really like the ballistics of the .300 WM in comparison to the .300 Weatherby, or the .338 WM. It seems to be just right in the realm of felt recoil, accuracy, energy, and range. I doubt I will ever need anything more powerful than this cartridge.

I just want a Solid platform rifle that will not suffer damage should I decide to go through a box of rounds in one sitting. I guess it's one of those "Expect the best, plan for the worst" kind of things.

The floating bolt, accu trigger, and stock/frame system is what really has me interested in Savage. These are features I believe that will keep this rifle in service for years to come, despite my "abusive" enjoyment of trigger pull.

The 110FP would be an awesome rifle, but I don't believe it comes equipped with the previously mentioned options. The more I'm learning about this, am I safe to assume that with a standard barrel I would be able to fire 60 rounds in one hour?

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by suberjc on Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:54 pm

Well no. I should have qualified that. I actually shoot a 6br in 600 yard F-Class matches. Also remember I said Savage/Brux. I use a 29 in long 1.25 inch diameter from action to crown Brux barrel on this action.
The Savage action is mainly what I'm speaking of. The action should / will hold up just fine for thousands of rounds. The Savage barrel is fine as well but steel is steel and physics is physics. I'm guessing about 700 to 1000 rounds at maximum accuracy with 300 WM. You may then have to either have a smith cut and rechamber the barrel or replace it. That's on any brand. My round count could well be off though. I am guessing..

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Re: Interested in a bolt .300 Win Mag

Post by RMulhern on Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Why?

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