Disappointed in Hydrashoks
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Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by bwechols on Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:22 pm
I've been saving plastics jugs for a while because I thought it would be fun to fill them with water and shoot them up. Turns out, I was right. However, I was a little disappointed by what I found. I stacked several jugs in a row to see if I could "catch" some bullets to see what they looked like after impact. I was shooting standard pressure Federal Hydrashok in my snub-nose .38 (Smith & Wesson model 442). I shot some Winchester White Box hollowpoints that I grabbed at Wally World on the way to shoot out of my Glock 17. Here's what I got..... (.38 on the left, 9mm on the right)
As you can see, the .38 didn't expand anywhere near as much as the 9mm. Here's that same .38 with another that I recovered....
You can see that 2 of the 6 petals of the hollowpoint didn't even fold over on the left bullet. I'm seriously disappointed here. I guess I'm going to have to try some +P ammo for the .38. Ya'll think this result was simply a lack of velocity out of the snub-nose?
As you can see, the .38 didn't expand anywhere near as much as the 9mm. Here's that same .38 with another that I recovered....
You can see that 2 of the 6 petals of the hollowpoint didn't even fold over on the left bullet. I'm seriously disappointed here. I guess I'm going to have to try some +P ammo for the .38. Ya'll think this result was simply a lack of velocity out of the snub-nose?
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by cottonmouth on Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:25 pm
I'd like to see what a 4 or 6 inch barrel would have done.
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by Beladran on Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:37 pm
for a snub you really need +P stuff. Gold dot now makes a short barrel bullet.. supposed to have soft soft lead and super thin jacket
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by Beladran on Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:40 pm
you wanna see a real disappointment?????
45acp winchester rangers...
45acp winchester rangers...
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by sidroski on Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:04 pm
When I bought my sp101 2 1/2" in about 1990(?), the guy behind the counter said he didn't think you could get magnum velocities out of so short a barrel. It has out performed my 2 1/2 .38's both using hydrashoks by a bit though. I've gotten good energy transfer into similar mediums comparing the two. Never chrono'ed them though. Has anyone who owns a chrono (Beladran?)?
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by Beladran on Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:19 pm
weatherby turned my chrono into shrapnel many months back.. to stingy with the $$ to buy another one right now..
the magic number for jacket expansion is 1000 fps.. for a snub 38 thats pretty dang hard unless you slinging a 135gr or less bullet.. if you feeling frogy bufflo bore makes a 158gr LHP they claim makes 1040fps from a 2inch smith... I call BS on that being safe for 38spl's....
the magic number for jacket expansion is 1000 fps.. for a snub 38 thats pretty dang hard unless you slinging a 135gr or less bullet.. if you feeling frogy bufflo bore makes a 158gr LHP they claim makes 1040fps from a 2inch smith... I call BS on that being safe for 38spl's....
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by bwechols on Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:02 pm
Dang, Beladran. I thought Rangers were supposed to be the sh!t. What did you shoot those into to catch them?
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by dhollis51 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:07 pm
I use 44mag 240 grain hydra shocks for hunting deer and love them out of my Ruger 96/44, they will tear a deer up 
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by pinetor on Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:37 pm
It seems I read that hydroshoks had been replaced a while back as the best expanding bullets.
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by DirtyWorks on Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:24 pm
Yall need to build a box of truth http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by Leopardcurdog on Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:06 am
I chrono-ed the following in 38 spl. All factory loaded ammo.
Winchester 125gr JHP +P, 4" GP 100 ran 976 fps and out of a 2 1/4" SP 101 ran 826 fps.
Federal Self Defense 125gr JHP +P, 4" GP 100 ran 1128 fps and out of the SP 101 ran 1017 fps.
Hornady 158gr XTP, 4" GP 100 ran 730 fps and out of the 2 1/4" Sp 101 ran 742 fps.
I've recovered a lot of rounds out of water tanks and buckets of sand, and 38's just don't expand much out of a handgun. When shot through a couple layers of denim, they don't expand at all, from what I've found. It's all just good backyard fun though. I doubt any of us will have to contend with being attacked by water or sand. I keep my 38's loaded with plain old 158gr LSWC.
If anyone around H'burg wants to chrono anything, holler. I've got the chrono and the place to do it.
Winchester 125gr JHP +P, 4" GP 100 ran 976 fps and out of a 2 1/4" SP 101 ran 826 fps.
Federal Self Defense 125gr JHP +P, 4" GP 100 ran 1128 fps and out of the SP 101 ran 1017 fps.
Hornady 158gr XTP, 4" GP 100 ran 730 fps and out of the 2 1/4" Sp 101 ran 742 fps.
I've recovered a lot of rounds out of water tanks and buckets of sand, and 38's just don't expand much out of a handgun. When shot through a couple layers of denim, they don't expand at all, from what I've found. It's all just good backyard fun though. I doubt any of us will have to contend with being attacked by water or sand. I keep my 38's loaded with plain old 158gr LSWC.
If anyone around H'burg wants to chrono anything, holler. I've got the chrono and the place to do it.
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by Beladran on Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:38 am
bwechols wrote:Dang, Beladran. I thought Rangers were supposed to be the sh!t. What did you shoot those into to catch them?
blue jean wraped around wet phonebooks. the two that didnt expand ANY is what worried me
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Re: Disappointed in Hydrashoks
by bwechols on Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:17 pm
Beladran wrote:blue jean wraped around wet phonebooks. the two that didnt expand ANY is what worried me
Oh, wow. I thought we were looking at 2 unfired bullets for comparison.
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