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Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Doggy1953 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:10 pm

Picked up my first MN 91/30 today at Cooks gun shop in Diberville. Came with cosomline still all over the rifle and bayonet. Also had 4 ammo pouches, tool kit (not sure what its for yet) twin bottles and sling.All for $99. I think its was a good deal. I cleaned the cosomline off the bayonet and the little twin bottles with gas, worked great. Anyone know if I can use gas to clean the bolt and barrell outside? Would it cause any damage or problems.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Tree of Liberty on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:22 pm

all i can say is: even when you think you have all the cosmonline off...more will appear. id soak everything (except the stock) in hot soapy water and wipe it off thoroughly. the stock is the tricky part. you're going to have to use either an iron or some sort of steamer to steam all the cosmoline out of the wood. it may sound like a pain in the rear but it is what it is.

as far as the "tool kit," im under the impression that it is novelty item rather than anything useful. there should be one item in the kit that can be used as a headspace gauge but i would not rely on it; instead rely on a no-go gauge.

congrats on your first Mosin. if you're like many of us on this forum... this Mosin will not be your last.

what are the details on your 91/30? tula or izmash? what year? etc. i always enjoy hearing about other peoples finds.

also....for any serious questions about your rifle i would suggest asking the Doug Bowser (he is a member on this forum). i learn something new on just about every one of his posts concerning c&r firearms

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by captain-03 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:40 pm

Use break cleaner to clean the metal surfaces .... use some mineral spirts for the wood .....

Congrats on the 91/30 -- they ARE fun to shoot!!

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Brutus on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:26 pm

Tree of Liberty wrote:all i can say is: even when you think you have all the cosmonline off...more will appear. id soak everything (except the stock) in hot soapy water and wipe it off thoroughly. the stock is the tricky part. you're going to have to use either an iron or some sort of steamer to steam all the cosmoline out of the wood. it may sound like a pain in the rear but it is what it is.

as far as the "tool kit," im under the impression that it is novelty item rather than anything useful. there should be one item in the kit that can be used as a headspace gauge but i would not rely on it; instead rely on a no-go gauge.

congrats on your first Mosin. if you're like many of us on this forum... this Mosin will not be your last.

what are the details on your 91/30? tula or izmash? what year? etc. i always enjoy hearing about other peoples finds.

also....for any serious questions about your rifle i would suggest asking the Doug Bowser (he is a member on this forum). i learn something new on just about every one of his posts concerning c&r firearms


A headspace gauge? I know there's a tool in there that's used for a firing pin protrusion gauge, but didn't know about a headspace gauge.

Neat.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by cranedriver on Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:20 pm

I still need to get me one of these. I have the M44 the carbine Mosin. Lots of fun to shoot.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Doug Bowser on Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:51 pm

I have headspace gauges

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Moisin Nagant 91/30

Post by Doggy1953 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:14 pm

Its a 1943 model and has a hammer and sickle stamped on top of the receiver and a triangle. Once I get her cleaned up I'll try and see if there is anymore markings. Do I need to completely break down bolt assembly or could I soak it in gas or mineral spirits to get rid of any cosmoline? It doesn't seem to have much comoline on it.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Tree of Liberty on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 pm

i have the same yr same manufacture plant as that one. sweet. mine has the appearance of being battle used as well. you have an izmash (which is the american way of saying izhevsk i suppose).


if i were you i would break the bolt down all the way. but like i said prior...make sure the headspace is checked you disassemble the bolt and adjust the bolt head any.

you could choose not to break the bolt down, but thats your call. at least soak it in water/soap. or do as capt says and w/ brake cleaner (never tried that way yet)

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Muleskinner on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:33 pm

Congrats on your new purchase!
Here is a link to a step by step on how to break down your Mosin. It helped me out... hope it helps you, too. Lots of historical and maintenance information here:
http://russian-mosin-nagant.com/clean.htm (Maintenance Page)
http://russian-mosin-nagant.com/index.html (Home Page)

Also check out: http://7.62x54r.net/ Tons of info...

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by PapaDawg on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:08 pm

captain-03 wrote:Use break cleaner to clean the metal surfaces .... use some mineral spirts for the wood .....


Capt - I thought this was where you opened the dishwasher and inserted firearm Smile Smile

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by captain-03 on Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:42 pm

PapaDawg wrote:[Capt - I thought this was where you opened the dishwasher and inserted firearm Smile Smile


Them dang 91/30s are just TOO LONG!!!!! ... now if it were only an M44!!

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Doggy1953 on Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:37 pm

Thanks for links. Got her cleaned up and going to the range thur. The bore looks like its never had a round fired through it. Thanks to all for your info.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by rdj94a on Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:49 am

simple green and water cuts the cosomo!!

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Doug Bowser on Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:11 am

Doggy1953 wrote:Its a 1943 model and has a hammer and sickle stamped on top of the receiver and a triangle. Once I get her cleaned up I'll try and see if there is anymore markings. Do I need to completely break down bolt assembly or could I soak it in gas or mineral spirits to get rid of any cosmoline? It doesn't seem to have much comoline on it.


Triangle with arrow is Izhevsk, star with arrow is Tula. They are both of equal quality. The bolt may have grease in it. Disassembly is in order. Let down the cocking piece and the bolt will come apart easily. WD-40 melts cosmoline.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Muleskinner on Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:08 am

Doggy1953 : what about a range report!
Would like to know what you think of your new toy!!!

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Doggy1953 on Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:49 am

Going to the range thur, if I can. I'll post the results.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by 1985 4runner on Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:30 pm

I trick I found that works really well on a cosmoline soaked wood stock is to put a couple of old towels on your dashboard & put the stock on those & park in the direst sunlight with the windows up.

The radiant heat & temperature reached in the car will sweat a good portion of it out. Wipe periodically.

Beware the car will smell like Cosmoline for a couple of days!


Good to use on old truck like mine.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by michael03a3 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:02 am

The stock underneath the cosmoline is probably varnished or shellacked -- I'd be careful with using solvents on that. Soapy water and the above hot car trick might be better.

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Gitschlag on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:13 am

Or y'all could save yourselves all this trouble and just buy a Mauser instead. lol

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Re: Got a Moisin Nagant 91/30 today

Post by Tree of Liberty on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:34 am

Gitschlag wrote:Or y'all could save yourselves all this trouble and just buy a Mauser instead. lol



G-man and his Mausers lol. We know deep down you love the Mosins Very Happy don't lie!

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