Glock accidents

I just watched 3 Glock accidents on Youtube. The side of the frames blew out. I have no experience with Glock Pistols, is this common?

Doug

Dunno but look here:

http://www.msgunowners.com/t20002-10mm-glock-kaboom

Well why do so many LEO's carry glocks?
scott

Doug Bowser wrote:I just watched 3 Glock accidents on Youtube. The side of the frames blew out. I have no experience with Glock Pistols, is this common?

Doug

Also, YouTube is filled with morons so I'd have to see the videos before commenting. There are too many variables to take into account. Were they handloads? What caliber? Did they fire out of battery?

Common? It depends. When the chamber can't support the pressure, it has to take the path of least resistance. So if there is, for example, a double charged round, often it will go towards the magazine well since there is less case support on the bottom of the chamber. So, yes, if there is an overpressure then the side of the frame may let go. But, no, it's not common in terms of it happening to every gun.

Just as common as someone double charging a vintage Smith and Wesson revolver and blowing the top strap off.

mascott wrote:Well why do so many LEO's carry glocks?
scott

Because they are cheap and for a long time have been the status quo. E.g., one department head hears the department in the next county over just traded their 686's or Beretta 92's in for a batch of Glocks for cheap and does the same.

They are not significantly better or worse than any other major manufacturer's polymer framed guns.

You know, if you look hard enough, you can find kabooms on just about any brand. I've seen several accounts with the all metal S&Ws. Didn't cause me to lose faith in the gun or design. If you think about it, the percentage with Glock is probably no more or less than any other major brand. Additionally, just about every kaboom I've read about concerning any brand had some sort of ammo history that seemed to be, or to at least have contributed to, the problem. You can blow up the best 1911, if you're a real cowboy reloader. Keep in mind, there are a ton of Glocks in daily service out there and you seldom hear of any of them blowing up and they're shot a lot more than the average guys gun. It's just that the Glock detractors love to point out any flaw they can find. Personally, I think they're jealous.

Hrdnox wrote:You know, if you look hard enough, you can find kabooms on just about any brand. I've seen several accounts with the all metal S&Ws. Didn't cause me to lose faith in the gun or design. If you think about it, the percentage with Glock is probably no more or less than any other major brand. Additionally, just about every kaboom I've read about concerning any brand had some sort of ammo history that seemed to be, or to at least have contributed to, the problem. You can blow up the best 1911, if you're a real cowboy reloader. Keep in mind, there are a ton of Glocks in daily service out there and you seldom hear of any of them blowing up and they're shot a lot more than the average guys gun. It's just that the Glock detractors love to point out any flaw they can find. Personally, I think they're jealous.

+1

99% of the time they are shooting non factory ammo.

I have had zero problems with any of my Glocks in 20+ years

Doesn't seem to me that Doug was "bashing" (this time, anyway). He cited some events and asked if it was common.

My comments certainly weren't aimed at Doug, or anyone else, however he's made it clear as to his opinions of plastic guns in general. If you spend any time over on the S&W forum, you can find similar accounts concerning S&W guns that are all metal guns. Folks just seem to enjoy knocking Glock most of all. Of course, some of it is certainly justified to offset the Glock fanboys a little. I've read the accounts and seen the videos of it actually happening, however after delving deeper into the facts, it hasn't lessened my opinion of Glocks. They're just guns or machines and some are bound to fail. Glock doesn't hold a monopoly on failures. But, you are right Steven, this was one of Doug's more restrained posts. He's usually more vocal about his feelings. I don't fault him for that, because I know he knows a lot more about guns than I ever will and I don't think he has any axe to grind with any manufacturer. He just likes his metal guns and revolvers.

Will_M wrote:

mascott wrote:Well why do so many LEO's carry glocks?
scott

Because they are cheap and for a long time have been the status quo. E.g., one department head hears the department in the next county over just traded their 686's or Beretta 92's in for a batch of Glocks for cheap and does the same.

They are not significantly better or worse than any other major manufacturer's polymer framed guns.

correct.. glock just has a great marketing department plus hellywood has increased its popularity. If cops could have the option of department issue HK USP or Glock which one do you think they would pick??

Glocks tend to kaboom more because they are carried and shot more across the board because of LEO's. Our dept has had 3 kabooms and we are now in the process of changing pistols. Like above posted they all can its just a matter of chance. Glock changed the barrel on the gen 4 gun so that is less of a chance on the G22.

I've shot Glocks every since they came out never any issues, I would travel to hell and back with the G20 as it's my favorite. Just recently got into shooting revolvers love the things also. Friends have them no issues, I can't say enough good things about a Glock, I look at it like this if I need it it'll go BOOM!!! No fumbling with a safety just squeeze the trigger and smell the powder.

I know many on here have the remington model 700. Have you heard of the problems with them?
scott

There is no such thing as a piece of perfection going kaboom. These are all manipulated videos. I don't believe it.

Lol what flavor kool aid you drinking??

The Austrian flavor lol. Yall by now should all know that somebody out there can screw up a wet dream. So all this hoopla about any gun blowing up is to me almost never an issue. The only real life experience with a bad gun I've ever had or seen was a friend shot himself in the knee with a beretta that was later recalled because of safety issues. He got a million bucks for it. The safety was on, the empty case didn't eject and his finger wasn't even in the trigger guard when it went off. I also "heard" ruger's had some issues with drop fires in revolvers and they recalled them and put safety bars in free of charge. I would imagine with everyone being a sniper these days and getting trigger jobs on everything that probably has something to do with the Remingtons accidental discharging.

I know for sure it happens. In the 3 that we have two (2) was reloads. The other was WWB 180gr. I feel confident that its not entirely the guns fault. It is due to weak brass and the the design of the barrel of the gun combined. Their is a reason Glock changed their barrel design in the Gen 4 gun and fixed the unsupported chamber. Why would you change perfection? I think we can all agree that Glock is a great gun and I have several and want stop shooting them...

It is the same as the type airplane that is flying the most will inevitably crash the most. The 737 has proven to be one of the safest planes to ever fly even though it has had more crashes than many other models the flight hours and numbers of planes flying far exceed the other models. Same applies for the Glock, way more of them out there so what do you expect. Check out Hickok45 on youtube. This guy has likely put more rounds though all models of Glocks than 99.99999% of cops or anyone else and he is straight up to and tells it like it is and has never had a major issue with any of them. As he says, they just work.

Personally I can only speak for my G-36 and can say this. I have put 1000,s of round through it and the only thing it will not run 100% with is the jug mouthed Conbon hollow points. My pal also has an old G-17 that had many 1000's through it and he treats the gun like crap and almost never cleans it and it keeps going like the energizer bunny on steroids. I have many other type guns and like them too and in fact like the looks features of many more than Glocks but, in my experience nothing has eat more types of ammo and put more rounds downrange without issue than the Glocks. It is gun brand I bet my life on. I carry what I think is the best around functioning gun, not what is the cheapest or best looking. I am also a huge believer in the KISS method for anything and the Glocks got that down pat.