I have narrowed it down.

I have narrowed my decision on a handgun down to two options. I need yall to help me make a decision. However, I feel that I am comparing apples to oranges. The guns are both so different, but both so appealing.

1. Glock 19 Gen. 4
OR
2. Springfield Armory Loaded Lightweight Champion
OD Green/ Black Armory Kote

My main purpose will be shooting at paper, and possible ccw in the future.

Please Give your honest opinions.
Thank you.

I would go Springfield all day long. No comparision to a 1911

Glock hands down. You won't be disappointed. Plenty of capacity, reliability, and down right purdy.

BigDaddyQ wrote:Glock hands down. You won't be disappointed. Plenty of capacity, reliability, and down right purdy.

A Glock purdy? You been drinking the Glockade. A Glock is uglier than Nancy Pelosi...

Get the Springfield, forget the Glock.

if those are the only choices, the Glock 19.

A fully loaded glock is only marginally lighter than a fully loaded 1911.

That said, I carry either a full size 1911, a compact(4" with officer frame) 1911, or a Browning Hi-Power about 99.999% of the time that I'm not at work.

I only just now bought my first glock. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, hoping to make it this week. I went with the 26 because I wanted pocket carry to be an option.

The only benefit the 19 has over the 1911 is the higher capacity. Yeah it's slightly more compact, but it's much wider. Yeah it's a good bit lighter but only just barely so once you load it up with a full mag and one in the pipe. So in essence it's purely personal preference. I bought mine strictly for deep concealment when I want higher capacity than my LCR allows for. I also bought it just to add something different to my growing collection.

I carry about 16 hours a day, if my pants are on, then so is my gun. It's just like my knife and my wallet. I don't leave home without it. I say that because all of my guns are hefty, and it doesn't phase me a bit. If you'll invest in a proper holster, not some uncle mike or Blackhawk crap, and invest in a proper GUN belt, then you'll be able to comfortably carry and conceal any gun reasonably well.

Prepare to spend about $200 between one great holster and a great belt. You can go higher, but there's no sense in it. A good holster molded for YOUR type gun is key. Try to stay away from universal type crap. You'll waste a lot of money if you go down that road.

Most important is buy what speaks to you! If you don't buy the one that feels best to you and gives you that tingling feeling in your loins then you're just going to get rid of it down the road. Both of your selections are quality ones. I'm not a big springer 1911 fan, but if it were me, I'd choose it over the Glock because nothing about one really tips the scales in its favor. A glock looks like it means business, because that's what it is, a KISS design. A 1911 tends to just ooze class and coolness, it's a time proven design that will probably outlast the plastic wonder pistols of today.........oh wait, it already has so far, but only time will tell.

Good luck with your choice!

jakeg823 wrote:A fully loaded glock is only marginally lighter than a fully loaded 1911.

That said, I carry either a full size 1911, a compact(4" with officer frame) 1911, or a Browning Hi-Power about 99.999% of the time that I'm not at work.

I only just now bought my first glock. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, hoping to make it this week. I went with the 26 because I wanted pocket carry to be an option.

The only benefit the 19 has over the 1911 is the higher capacity. Yeah it's slightly more compact, but it's much wider. Yeah it's a good bit lighter but only just barely so once you load it up with a full mag and one in the pipe. So in essence it's purely personal preference. I bought mine strictly for deep concealment when I want higher capacity than my LCR allows for. I also bought it just to add something different to my growing collection.

I carry about 16 hours a day, if my pants are on, then so is my gun. It's just like my knife and my wallet. I don't leave home without it. I say that because all of my guns are hefty, and it doesn't phase me a bit. If you'll invest in a proper holster, not some uncle mike or Blackhawk crap, and invest in a proper GUN belt, then you'll be able to comfortably carry and conceal any gun reasonably well.

Prepare to spend about $200 between one great holster and a great belt. You can go higher, but there's no sense in it. A good holster molded for YOUR type gun is key. Try to stay away from universal type crap. You'll waste a lot of money if you go down that road.

Most important is buy what speaks to you! If you don't buy the one that feels best to you and gives you that tingling feeling in your loins then you're just going to get rid of it down the road. Both of your selections are quality ones. I'm not a big springer 1911 fan, but if it were me, I'd choose it over the Glock because nothing about one really tips the scales in its favor. A glock looks like it means business, because that's what it is, a KISS design. A 1911 tends to just ooze class and coolness, it's a time proven design that will probably outlast the plastic wonder pistols of today.........oh wait, it already has so far, but only time will tell.

Good luck with your choice!

Thats the main problem: I want them both.

I do have one possible issue with both.
Glock 19 gen4- i have heard the gen4 has been having a few problems with ftf, fte, stovepipes. I have just heard rumors. Is it true?
SA 1911 Loaded Champion LW- Is a forged aluminum alloy frame going to wear out? The slide is forged steel

i highly doubt an aluminum frame is going to wear out. if you take care of it properly, and dont run it too dry it will last you a lifetime....but i'm no expert either. Many manufactures claim to run them for X amount of rounds with no significant signs of wear. I know Kimber claims 20k rounds with no signs of wear. I doubt most of us will ever put that many rounds through any single gun in our lifetimes.

as to the gen4. Glock did do a pretty quiet recall on all guns sold before June or July of this year to replace the new recoil spring system. Not sure if they went back to the old single spring or kept the double spring system, which is what the subcompact glocks have had for a long time. My new gun is a brand new Gen3 because I couldn't justify spending $100-150 more on a gun that had nothing that made a significant difference to me. I wouldn't have hesitated to buy a gen4 though.

i think you stand a better chance of wearing out a Glock than you do a 1911, aluminum frame or not. Either should last you a lifetime if properly cared for though. Replace parts as needed when they show signs of wear.....example would be recoil springs, which are often over looked. most failures, especially w/ 1911s come from the magazines or a worn out recoil spring, in my experience.

You'll end up with both of them eventually. The average person isn't going to wear out either of your choices. I like a heavier gun for playing at the range.

1911's and glocks are the staple of most competition shooters. You will not "wear" one out with normal plinking and target shooting. You can put 25-30K rounds through either without ever having to change any major pieces. There are exceptions to every rule but for the most part this is true! Springs wear out, frames usually do not. Springs are a dime a dozen.

I think your statement that it's an apples-to-oranges comparison is correct. I also agree with the person who posted that you will have them both eventually.

One thing that no one has mentioned is the cost of ammunition. The difference is quite significant. So, for a gun that is primarily going to shoot paper, you can shoot a heckuvalot more paper with the G19.

springfield...

I was on a search similar to yours and arrived at the FN FNP 45 with the 1911 a close second.

Joshua wrote:I was on a search similar to yours and arrived at the FN FNP 45 with the 1911 a close second.

This is my next .45 purchase. Hard to beat the suppressor ready model

In 1911's I think you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't at least CONSIDER a Kimber.

JMHO.....

Glock 19...love mine.

Brutus wrote:In 1911's I think you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't at least CONSIDER a Kimber.

JMHO.....

Couldn't agree more. Like Glocks, they do have some bashers, but thats because, like Glocks, they sell more of their product than anyone else.

My Kimber Compact CDP II is the last gun I'd ever get rid of

Of the two the SA hands down!! Gen 4 Glocks are catching hell right now, so might want to give'm a minute.....

I think the spring recall settled the issues with the gen 4 Glocks. I carry a gen 3 Glock 19 IWB every day. As stated before you can shoot twice as many rounds for the same price with the 19. The 100rd box at wallyworld is right around $20. Then get real ammo for personal carry.