Military Shotgun

Well even guys that have been doing this along time get stumped. What are your thoughts on this one?



Possibly an early industry guard weapon? (12 gauge)

rdj94a wrote:Well even guys that have been doing this along time get stumped. What are your thoughts on this one?



Possibly an early industry guard weapon? (12 gauge)

Maybe from the WWI era?

I've seen Remington Model 11's and Stevens Model 720's (semi-autos) that were ordnance-marked, but those were from the WWII era and were used to train the bomber machine-gunners on how to engage enemy fighters in defense.

I like neat old stuff like that.

Google on "Iver Johnson shotgun ordnance marked" or "Iver Johnson military".... something like that, and see what turns up.

I SPENT 21 YEARS IN THE SERVICE AND I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE, IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN TO RESEARCH

The only single shot shotgun I've seen with ordinance markings had been used as a line gun. There was a can that mounted to the bottom of the barrel which contained a thin rope tied to a unit that slipped over the end of the barrel. The end unit was fired to docking ships and the small rope was tied to a larger rope used to secure the vessel.

Possibility I guess, I just acquired it so I will field strip and look for additional markings

could possibly be a special service gun to lone out on big bases, in any case very unusual

rdj94a wrote:could possibly be a special service gun to lone out on big bases, in any case very unusual

That certainly could be a possibility!!

rdj94a wrote:could possibly be a special service gun to lone out on big bases, in any case very unusual

The Army used Marlin and Winchester lever guns for soldiers guarding lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S. maybe the shotgun is from something like that, were they didn't need a battle rifle, just something to tote around?

Interesting to say the least, I'm still betting that it was a guard weapon for a civilian or military plant. I contacted Guns International for info sent them the pic, no info but they were willing to buy it?

Here's one that was on Gunbroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=259123494

More info.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=68719

I found those also thanks

rdj94a wrote:Interesting to say the least, I'm still betting that it was a guard weapon for a civilian or military plant. I contacted Guns International for info sent them the pic, no info but they were willing to buy it?

Did they make you an offer?

22lrfan wrote:Here's one that was on Gunbroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=259123494

Interesting that it did not sell ....

I doubt it is worth a fortune, however it is still very unusual.

There was a blanket procurement for arms in WWII. It probably spent it's days guarding a railroad bridge.

Made by Iver Johnson from 1905 to 1959. Several different gauges plus some rifle models. Value in poor condition about $75 but could bring more with the US markings.