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Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:27 pm

I'm in the market for a transferable SMG UZI on Form 4 or 3 (preferable in MS). Thanks.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by captain-03 on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:47 pm

Boy - you got it bad!!

However, would suggest you try to shoot one of them before you drop that serious cash for one. Fun to shoot but the ergonomics seems to be lacking ... that folding stock does not give a good cheek weld and the sights are pretty much useless (IMHO) ... for a 9mm, I would consider it on the heavy side. You can get a wooden stock (still think I have one) along with a barrel extension -- however, if you do all of that, might as well get a carbine or rifle!!

I still have one of the first model carbines that were imported in the 80s. Again, fun to shoot but pretty much useless ... for any serious action.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:54 pm

Yep, got it pretty bad. I'm on the net right now posting up stuff for sale.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rw on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:54 pm

I have limited experience with uzi, but like capt said the ergonomics were lacking to me too. That said, DO NOT shoot a mp5, you will want one bad... i do. I shot one of Mike smiths at Meet and Greet 2 (a sd with integral suppressor) I still want one.

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Post by captain-03 on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:56 pm

keithinvestigations wrote:Yep, got it pretty bad. I'm on the net right now posting up stuff for sale.

Can remember when I did the same thing!!

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:18 pm

Rw wrote:I have limited experience with uzi, but like capt said the ergonomics were lacking to me too. That said, DO NOT shoot a mp5, you will want one bad... i do. I shot one of Mike smiths at Meet and Greet 2 (a sd with integral suppressor) I still want one.

MP5 out of my price range. I realize that the UZI is not going to be a top notch competitor. I want it for the coolness factor and dumping some ammo down range.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rw on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:20 pm

An mp5 is a factor in me getting my ffl/sot in the next 6 months or so. Then im eligible to buy a pre may sample, they cost roughly 1/3 what the others do plus i can keep it if i give up my license. Not to mention what i can legally build being a sot.

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Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:26 pm

Rw wrote:An mp5 is a factor in me getting my ffl/sot in the next 6 months or so. Then im eligible to buy a pre may sample, they cost roughly 1/3 what the others do plus i can keep it if i give up my license. Not to mention what i can legally build being a sot.

This is interesting. You can keep pre may samples even if you give up your FFL and SOT?

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rw on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:27 pm

keithinvestigations wrote:
Rw wrote:An mp5 is a factor in me getting my ffl/sot in the next 6 months or so. Then im eligible to buy a pre may sample, they cost roughly 1/3 what the others do plus i can keep it if i give up my license. Not to mention what i can legally build being a sot.

This is interesting. You can keep pre may samples even if you give up your FFL and SOT?

Yes, you can.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:32 pm

You can keep PRE-86 dealer samples, but not POST-86 guns.

POST-86 guns will require a LEO demo letter, PRE-86 guns don't.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:34 pm

The POST-86 (Posties) guns are the cheap ones.

PRE-86 dealer samples are pretty high $$$$. Though not as bad as transferables...............

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:05 pm



You got to love the looks of the UZI. True, not that comfortable to shoot from the shoulder, but tuck the stock under your arm and ROCK & ROLL.............. Smile

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:16 pm

Nice...

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by VegasSMG on Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:15 pm

Once you get your MAX-11 up and running, it's almost like having and Uzi... I owned both at the same time.

IMHO, you would do well to use the money for the stripped MAC-10 frame and the Uzi money and buy a RR M-16. The most versatile transferable platform you can own. .22LR, 9mm, 5.56, 7.62x39, 5.7 and you even have the beltfed option. Subguns are nice, but you need something in rifle caliber.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:18 pm

Yeah, I was thinking about that. I'm looking at an AC556 for $6,250 on a Form 4. How long does it take Form 4 out of state to my dealer?

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:31 pm

I suggest you pass on the AC556.....................................

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:26 am

SubGunFan wrote:I suggest you pass on the AC556.....................................

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Why is that?

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:36 am

1. They are mag sensitive and can be Jam-O-Matics.

2. Have you spent time with a Mini-14? Not that great..............

3. Can not be upgraded/changed that much. No caliber changes.

4. Why do you think they are so "cheap"? All you get is a FA Mini-14 in 223.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:39 am

Davy, I would slow down on your buying spree and wait for the chances to shoot the type guns you are looking at..............

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:00 am

I haven't bought anything yet just looking. Just because I'm looking doesn't mean that I'm going to buy.

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Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:05 am

Hey SubGunFan,

Thanks for your suggestion about slowing down. I have a tendency to go "hog wild." Always have. I've decided to focus this energy into getting my Class III license so I can purchase samples. If I'm going to go crazy, I may as well do it right.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by SubGunFan on Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:41 pm

Do you own or have access to a commercial building? Good chance BATFE will require it to approve your 01 FFL. Once you get your 01, the 03 SOT is just paperwork and $500. HINT: Apply for your 03 SOT right after the month of July. The 03 SOT runs on a FY of July to July, and BATFE doesn't prorate the cost.

Getting your 03 SOT would be wise for your "new" interest in FAs. The very first gun I would buy is a postie M16. You should be able to buy one for under $1000. Plus, you might soon discover..... SUPPRESSORS... Smile

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Dock Rocker on Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:46 pm

Dear baby Jesus this seems so familiar to me.....

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by mark_k on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:22 pm

Not sure down here, but back in Illinois where I'm from ya don't need a commercial building for a 01. A guy operates a shop out of his house. Not sure if they will let ya operate a 03 SOT out of your house though.

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Post by Dock Rocker on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:48 pm

It's all about zoning. If your house is not zoned for commercial business then you can't get a business license. With no business license you can't have an ffl.

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Post by SubGunFan on Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:49 pm

mark_k wrote:Not sure down here, but back in Illinois where I'm from ya don't need a commercial building for a 01. A guy operates a shop out of his house. Not sure if they will let ya operate a 03 SOT out of your house though.

The key is.......... when did he get his 01 FFL? In the old days BATFE handed out 01s like candy. I had one in the 80s, but mainly for powder and primers (yes, 01s were required to buy mail order powder and primers back then). I had a small reloading "business" (only local shooters) and had to log in ALL ammo sales then. GOOD thing we don't have to do that CRAP now. You older guys might remember having to show a DL to buy a box of 22s at WalMart.

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Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:44 am

Picked my business license up yesterday no problem. I do have an office next to my house.

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Post by Bitwise on Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:30 pm

I second Vegas's advice - it's not hard, he's forgotten more about transferable machineguns than I'll ever know. I think I'm close to getting my MAX-11 and MAX-22 running the way I want and I just pulled the trigger on a RR M16 (actually AR15 conversion).

Between those two guns I think I'll be set for life full-auto wise. They're versatile enough to get played with in lots of ways. The only other thing I might eventually want is an HK registered box, but that's years down the road, if ever.

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:46 pm

I think my love affair with MANY different machine guns has yet to begin!

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Post by jadams on Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:53 pm

Hows your wife feel???Mine thinks i spend more time with the guns than her....lol

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Re: transferable SMG UZI

Post by Rebel Rifle Ordnance on Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:57 pm

She's used to by now. 10 years the 21st of this month.

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