A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

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A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by captain-03 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:51 am

Used to train Polish youth for military service...

http://centerfiresystems.com/RIFLE-POL22.aspx

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by shoeshooter on Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:42 pm

I've keep an Email from them about these in my inbox for months, still haven't ordered one. IRRC, one of the years available was setup for scopes.

Captain, you're the king of military .22's, so please order one and let me try it out. greeting

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by miker84 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:02 pm

Hmmm. I think those are C&R thinking

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by PapaDawg on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:05 am

So, with Capt spending our hard-earned dollars for us (Smile - he knows we're all weak) - is anyone planning on ordering one (as if I didn't have enough MN types already)? I've stapled my hands to my desk so I can't, but sure would like to see one and put a few rounds through it.

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by inthe10ring on Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:45 pm

Prepare yourself...here comes a dumb question...what's "C&R"?

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by bubbat on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:20 pm

inthe10ring wrote:Prepare yourself...here comes a dumb question...what's "C&R"?


Curios and Relics, the ATF has a big list of older guns (if I remember right made between 1899 and up to 25yrs old?) that are classified as Curios and Relics. You can get a C&R FFL 003 licence from ATF so you can buy them from collectors or dealers and have them shipped direct to your house no going through local ffl to get no transfer fees. The 003 FFL is cheap doesn't take long to get and pays for it self with the discounts Midway and Brownells etc give you on most everything, in the first few months you have it.

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by shoeshooter on Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:12 pm

50 years old, generally.

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Re: A 22 For All You Mosin/Nagant Fans

Post by bubbat on Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:54 pm

shoeshooter wrote:50 years old, generally.
You are correct, I didn't know that any firearms automatically qualifies to be a curio and relic whether it's on the list or not. So if I read this right any firearm made before 1962 can be sold and bought as a C&R firearm.hmmmm

To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

a.Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms;
b.Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
c.Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list. Therefore, ATF does not generally list firearms in the C&R publication by virtue of their age. However, if you wish for a classification of your particular firearm under categories (b) or (c) above and wish your item to be listed, you may submit the weapon to the Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) for a formal classification.

Please note that firearms regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) may be classified as C&R items, but still may be subject to the provisions of the NFA. If your C&R item is an NFA firearm (e.g., Winchester Trappers) and you desire removal from the NFA status, you must submit it to FTB for evaluation and a formal classification.

Sorry for the hijack.. OT




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