Re: NRA rapid fire loading procedure... Ammo on the mat or stool

by Scharfschütze on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:29 am

PhillipM wrote:
Scharfschütze wrote:
PhillipM wrote:http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf

10.1.7 Rapid Fire Loading Procedure - For rapid fire stages, all shooters must start in the shooting position
for the appropriate stage of fire (i.e. sitting or prone) before firing their rapid fire strings.
After the announcement “YOUR SIGHTER PERIOD HAS ENDED” or “FOR YOUR SECOND STRING OF
RAPID FIRE” has been made, and before the targets appear, the rifle must be kept out of the shoulder, and the
ammunition must remain on either the ground or the shooting stool. When the targets appear shooters will retrieve
their ammunition, load either 2 or 5 rounds and commence fire. (Note: the rifle need not be in the shoulder before
the bolt is closed.) After firing 2 or 5 rounds, competitors will reload 8 or 5 rounds as appropriate. Reloading before
firing the 2nd or 5th round (hot reload) will result in the shooter receiving a total score of “0" for that entire 10-round
string of fire.
And that's the way we do it at SW Gun Club for the HP rifle matches; 1st Saturday of the month. Scores are reported to NRA for classification, we follow the NRA HP Rifle Rules. I have a copy of the revised rules (June 2011) beside the computer now.

I ordered some things from the CMP yesterday and was going to get you a CMP rulebook ($3) but they were out.

Thanks for thinking of us! I was going to try to order one this morning. I received the CMP package for the March matches at Bogue Chitto yesterday via FedEx, scorecards, certificates, and a stack of 2012 catalogs. I'll try again to order the rulebook but if all else fails I'll buy another ink cartridge for my printer and print the whole pdf file, then stick it in a 3-ring binder for use at the matches.

by PhillipM on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:49 am

Jim Owens told me of how he had the entire Army Marksmanship Unit ticked off at him once. The CMP rules say for what's not listed here, default to the NRA rules and one tenant of an EIC match is there are no sighters. At the nationals, he had been going over the rules with a referee and as a mental exercise discussed a hypothetical situation where in an EIC leg match a re-fire would default to the NRA rules which allows sighters.

Low and behold the situation came up in the Nationals and the ref let a shooter have two sighters on a re-fire! Owens said he didn't think the ref would actually do it, he was just illustrating flaws in the rules, lol!

by PhillipM on Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:37 pm

Doug Bowser wrote: There was a serious accident at Camp Perry when a shooter fell over backwards and fired a round up range, Noone was injured but the old rapid fire procedure was put under scrutiny by the NRA and CMP.

Doug

When did this happen? I can't find any reference so I asked about it on the national match board, no one remembers this. Dick Whiting, who runs the Eastern and Western games and authored the NRA range manual says:

Didn't happen. If it did, it had to occur when bolts were closed on a live round...and I do not recall such as incident. I have seen NDs but those bullets impacted harmlessly a few feet in front of the firing line. Scared the crap out of a few...and the best line from the tower was, "You now have a possible 90!" Seen it happen on the pistol range too, and the same reply from the tower. Today, that person might be escorted off the facility.

Dick Whiting