East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

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East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

Post by Scharfschütze on Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:14 pm

A view of some of my collection:
4 brown Army (Nationale Volksarmee, "NVA") holsters:

The one on the right was unissued, with stamps indicating 1965 mfg and the TGL "Technische Güte-und Lieferbedingungen", technical quality and delivery regulations:

Next one with the NVA stamp:

Two Volkspolizei holsters for the Traffic police:

Both are leather but the one on the right has a plastic coating. The one on the left appears to be unissued with an NVA stamp.
Here 2 of the last style developed for the NVA: the "Strichtarnstoff" holsters of plasticized canvas. These were tested but never issued as it was found that the plastic coated canvas caused the pistols to sweat, which in turn lead to rusting:

Two Bulgarian holsters; on the left a military holster, on the right commercial. The DDR used a lot of USSR and Bulgarian equipment:

And a back view. Note the difference in stitching quality; both have loops for the cleaning rod:

A USSR issue holster with EG markings; note how flap is different from the Bulgarian holsters:

3 black NVA (EG Army)issue holsters:

This one has an unusual pigskin inner flap:

The middle one has the TGL stamp and a date of 1964, with the old script "MdJ" (MdI) which was Ministerium des Innens, Ministry of the Interior

The oldest has a WW2-style attachment, and is relatively rare among DDR/Makarov holsters: the strap is sewn, not riveted, to the flap, not the body:

It also has the old script "MdJ", mfg. 1962 and issued to a 'Karl-Heinz Lehmann', with a sewn backstrap:

Here is a shoulder holster, called rather enigmatically an "Unterschnalltasche", 'under the buckle holster'??:

Now training materials; here is a poster with all the major components labeled:

An armorer's manual and operating manual, left to right:

And some very personal items. Here is an "Empfangskarte", issue card, for pistol # E3344:

and the reverse:

This card was issued to those the DDR entrusted with a firearm. It says basically:
"If the card is
a)in the possession of the user, the item is stored in the arsenal.
b)in the arsenal, then the item has been issued to the user." In other words, if you left the "item" (here a PistoleM) in the locker, you had to carry the card, and if you took it with you on duty you left the card in the locker.
A most interesting Police Manual: "Schießen mit den Pistolen Makarow und M74":

This is really interesting not only for the practical operating instructions, but also for the photos. For example, how to execute a "Volkspolizei" drive-by shooting:

and shooting the Pistole M from a rest:

Shooting with a side rest:

Shooting kneeling:

Point shooting, eye level:

The East German Gomer Pyle, point shooting kneeling:

Cleaning rods: Top: EG with hook at end for removing extractor & flat screwdriver on loop for removing grip screws; middle EG in Soviet style; bottom Soviet rod. EG in the middle is flatter and wider than the Soviet, with the triangle stamp while the Soviet has the star stamp:

Exercise cartridges, "Übungspatrone", black plastic with aluminum base:


Ammunition: 16 round boxes of ammunition produced at factory code 222, 1979:

This ammunition has a steel core designed to penetrate "body armor". A side view from the July 1995 issue of Deutsches Waffenjournal:

and the DDR spec. sheet showing the steel core:

And finally some Pistole-M: production models 1960 - 1964:

The 1960 model has relatively rare brown bakelite grips:
The 1960 and 1961 models have holes drilled for the lanyard; later models used a different attachment:

The 1959 production (VERY RARE!) used cast metal for some parts and those had breakage problems. For this two of the engineers were sent to prison! [ Handguns of the Armed Organizations of the Soviet Occupation Zone and German Democratic Republic ]. As a result, there was variation in the metallurgy in the following years; this 1961 model shows a relatively high amount of nickel in the hammer and safety lever as evident in the bright plum color:


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Re: East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

Post by righttoown on Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:16 pm

Nice collection

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Post by inthe10ring on Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:17 pm

Neat collection! I like the cleaning rod on the holster!

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Re: East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

Post by Scharfschütze on Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:49 pm

Thanks!

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Post by rdj94a on Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:19 am

Hard hitting handgun, nice collection

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Re: East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

Post by Ed Hunter on Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:55 am

Very nice.

I have enjoyed our dialog relative to the Makarov and Makarov-style pistols.

An interesting side light – You’ll recall the picture of the PA-63 resting on the holster in my posting (http://www.msgunowners.com/t20894-i-guess-i-m-now-a-makarovite).

Most, if not all, of the holsters you have shown have some sort of “ID-info” printed on the inside of the flap.

The holster that came with my PA-63 has that area on the inside of the flap blacked out!.

Wonder what’s under there.

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Post by Gebirgsjaeger on Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:28 pm

Great collection! Funny way they´ve teached shooting at some pics.

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Re: East German Makarov "Pistole M" and accessories:update with more photos

Post by Scharfschütze on Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:59 pm

Bump: didn´t go to new posts when I edited (added photos)

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More photos: found the cleaning kits

Post by Scharfschütze on Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:57 pm

The EG military & police issued a one-size-fits-all cleaning kit, "Reinigungsgerät 57" which was issued for cleaning everything from the Pistole M ("Makarov") to the AK47 (MPiKM47)and later the AK74 (MPiK74). Here are 2 I have. They were issued with a rubberized pouch. The one on the left has the designation RG 57 and the TGL stamp as with the holster posted earlier. The one on the right appears to be older and just has a "1" stamped on the lid:

And the contents. The one on the left is clearly newer, and perhaps unissued. The one on the right has the old style oil can, different weight on the pull through, and is oil soaked!

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