AR for high power matches

alright I want to build a Match grade rifle for the matches at Magnolia. gonna start from scratch and it will be a long process. I am starting with a Palmetto State Armory stripped lower and will go from there. I am new to AR's so don't know enough about them to do much but I figured I have y'all to help push me along.


I will be buying parts along the way so a part here and there.

So where to buy match parts? good barrel, trigger, stock, internals, bolt carrier group?

Thanks

DH

When you say match grade are you building a match rifle or match grade service rifle?

White Oak Armaments build excellent uppers in both. Or you can just buy barrels from them.

I believe a service rifle is what I want.

Ill check out white oak

thanks neighbor

I have heard good about WOA from places other than this site. I think you'd be happy with them.

I have been looking at white oak and looking at there uppers so might just buy the complete upper from somewhere and then build the lower. I was looking at the triggers and looking at the CMP legal triggers but I will never shoot in a serious competition and only shoot at Magnolia and SWGC sometime. ? is can I use the other triggers at these two places? I know the one trigger is light but the other trigger is lighter don't really need it but oh well

it is a Geissele trigger what are some other triggers out there?

Mine is a gold trigger. I can't remember the company off hand, but I'll post back when I do. It may be Timney. It's a fabulous trigger but is probably not legal for that type of comp.

American Trigger Corporation. It dropped in as a complete unit and breaks perfectly! Before that, I had installed a JP Reduced Power spring kit and was content with it. The ATC trigger was a birthday gift. If I ever get a WOA upper, my lower is ready!

I bought a barrel from this guy the other day. He has some neat looking stuff. I immediately thought it would be a great FPR set-up for F-class.
http://www.6mmar.com/

Im building a 24" 5.56 8 twist AR that i want to shoot F-Class with.
Pull the scope off and shoot hipower match.

Gonna try a black hole weaponry match poly 3 groove fluted. I think they are made out of 416R stainless?

Gieselle SSA 2- stage triggers are very good. ~$170
Rock River Arms makes a good 2 stage trigger also. ~$120
Both are legal for High Power. I personally prefer the 2 stage triggers as you take up the first 2 lbs. of a 4.5 lb. trigger on the first stage. The second stage breaks at abot 2.5 lbs.
Most of the High Power guys I shoot with use the WOA upper. John Holliger is a shooter himself, so he knows what works. Also, he uses a Wylde chamber which has a shorter throat.
I have the WOA match upper. It shoots 75 and 80 grain bullets very well.

If you are not in too big a hurry to get going, I'll bring mine to Southwest in February to check out for yourself.

thanks guys for the help.

Shoe I will keep you updated on my progress but it will be a slow progress and that is why I am building due to the cost of the Match grade rifles I can break it up in mostly 3-4 payments over several months and not break my bank.

So far think I am going with a WOA upper, PSA stripped lower, one of the Giessele triggers. that is the major $$$$ parts and a almost rifle.

now do I get the postban or preban upper? is there a major advantage with one over the other?

think I am going with one of the A4 flattops just in case I want to put a scope on it and take out some coyotes.

then to buy a rear sight which the match ones will be another major part.

then I have to learn how to shoot

also need a lower parts kit, seen them from $44-100 without a buttstock, and $90-200 with a buttstock. I know I can spend whatever amount I want on this rifle and it will add up quick I am seeing. so what is a good LPK with or without a buttstock. I figure this will be the 1st thing I buy for this build after the lower gets here.

If you are going to use a Giesselle trigger, get an LPK that doesn't include a new trigger. That will save you a few bucks.

Palmetto makes a good LPK without the trigger for around $30.

Going the flattop route you wil also need a carry handle to attach to it if you plan to shoot it as a service rifle. Different sighting setup for match and service.

Preban has a flash hider and the post ban does not. It's more personal preference as it does not affect performance.

RRA sells a nice A2 stock with buffer spring for about $60.

which front sight should I get? "•Choice of .052", .062", or .072" NM front sight post"

also what does the pinned rear sight base do?

dhollis51 wrote:which front sight should I get? "•Choice of .052", .062", or .072" NM front sight post"

also what does the pinned rear sight base do?

He smaller the front sight, the less the target will be obstructed by it.
Pinning the rear sight makes it less prone to movement when shooting. It is a personal preference. Many folks have it done, though.

I have a compass lake built rifle that shoots way better than I. Frank White at Compass Lake makes the barrels for White Oak. When searching around Compass lake engineering is abbreviated CLE.

Geiselles are the standard, Rock rivers are excellent, but there is a new trigger out there that has good reports, the X-treme.

http://www.x-tremeshooting.com/index.php?page=X-Treme%20AR-15%20trigger

Check out this RRA parts kit.

http://m1buddy.com/store2/product_info.php?products_id=35&osCsid=a51a0a63c284f59a9b8c06b6bb2c78de

Phillip I know why people like the x-treme trigger, cause of the one holding the rifle on the site selling it.

Alright, have or have on the way the stripped lower, PSA LPK, RRA A2 buttstock kit, now I pretty much need the complete upper which I'm going with the WhiteOak 20" service post ban upper, but which trigger? I am new to 2-stage triggers so should I start with the RRA match 2 stage trigger $120, RRA Match chrome trigger $155(whats difference between chrome and non chrome?) , Giessele SSA $180, or the Giessele hi-speed national match service $279? $$ is not a problem with this rifle due to saving and buying and being single with noone to complain but me.

Also I have the PSA lower I assume I have the small pin and not the large pin trigger seeing that the only one I see with the large is the colt lower? Am I right