What was Haley Barbour thinking?

This guy shot his wife in the head and killed her in cold blood, received a life sentence + 20 + 10, and Barbour gives him a pardon.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120109/NEWS/201090322/1001/RSS01

Smells fishy to me.

Doug

Not the first time that has happened. He also pardoned a murderer from Pascagoula. The guy went out hunting his ex-wife. Pulled up bedide her while she was stopped at a traffic light and shot her with a shotgun. Ten plus witnesses. He also was a trustee at the mansion.

That's just stupid.

Sounds like the Legislature is (again) refusing to do their duty by passing a law banning such pardons.

Maybe it's another situation ripe for a constitutional amendment by the people, for the people.

By the way, Haley Barbour is no conservative.

I voted for him and would again, but no true conservative would come out strongly for imposing state sales tax on internet sales as he has done.

And I am sure you heard him voicing STRONG opposition to the recently enacted amendment to prevent the taking of land under eminent domain for commercial developments.

Those stands, and his pardoning a murderer, tell me that he is no conservative.

He never was anything more than a selfservative, but he sure had the wool pulled over everyone's eyes. Good riddance to fat rubbish.

NRA_guy wrote:Sounds like the Legislature is (again) refusing to do their duty by passing a law banning such pardons.

Maybe it's another situation ripe for a constitutional amendment by the people, for the people.

By the way, Haley Barbour is no conservative.

I voted for him and would again, but no true conservative would come out strongly for imposing state sales tax on internet sales as he has done.

And I am sure you heard him voicing STRONG opposition to the recently enacted amendment to prevent the taking of land under eminent domain for commercial developments.

Those stands, and his pardoning a murderer, tell me that he is no conservative.

I agree he is not a conservative but a pragmatist.
However I tend to disagree with you on the internet sales tax; we are losing local revenue, and local jobs, when people send money out of state via the internet. It costs us tax revenues. Sales tax goes to local govt., shouldn´t we collect it here? Just my

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NRA_guy wrote:
However I tend to disagree with you on the internet sales tax; we are losing local revenue, and local jobs, when people send money out of state via the internet. It costs us tax revenues. Sales tax goes to local govt., shouldn´t we collect it here? Just my

The law already requires sales tax to be paid on items purchased in a state where the business your purchasing from has a brick and mortar operation, whether it be a store, warehouse or whatever. Why should I (We) pay extra sales tax on a product from a business that has no operations locally? The state gets plenty of revenue already from business within the state. And I don't know what they are using it on but it sure as heck aint infrastructure, schools or anything else I can see.

NRA_guy wrote:
I voted for him and would again, but no true conservative would come out strongly for imposing state sales tax on internet sales as he has done.
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That makes one of us.......I don't know how Barbour has so many people fooled. He's not a good speaker, he's not the most intelligent, he did ok in office, but not great....I would put him on par with Musgrove, he's excessively overweight and unattractive(doesn't fit your typical politician look), he is about as well spoken as Mushmouth from Fat Albert, he was as hypocritical as the rest of them, he went out of his way to make MS look even worse than usual(presidential campaign?!?)....and now he gives the people of this state one last kick in the sack by pardoning a murderer. Not someone I want representing me, thanks.

Now if we just get serious about the death penalty then folks like this want be around to get a pardon.

I do not like this one ....

captain-03 wrote:Now if we just get serious about the death penalty then folks like this want be around to get a pardon.

I do not like this one ....

My thoughts exactly capt! Lesson the number of appeals, shorten total amour of time to make those appeals and speed up the process. I see no reason to feed or take care of someone for 20+ years just to maaaaaybe put them to death. It's like taking one step forward and two steps back.

There is simply no reason to pardon a murderer! None whatsoever

While I am against the pardon, you need to ask why this murderer was put in the Governor's mansion,as a trustee in the first place. There seems to be some extenuating circumstance that put him there.
scott

mascott wrote:While I am against the pardon, you need to ask why this murderer was put in the Governor's mansion,as a trustee in the first place. There seems to be some extenuating circumstance that put him there.
scott

Wondered the same thing myself

jakeg823 wrote:

mascott wrote:While I am against the pardon, you need to ask why this murderer was put in the Governor's mansion,as a trustee in the first place. There seems to be some extenuating circumstance that put him there.
scott

Wondered the same thing myself

Me three! I wouldn't want to surround myself with convicts like this....I've never understood the pardon process, anyway. Seems like a HUGE step around the justice system!

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Scharfschütze wrote:

NRA_guy wrote:
However I tend to disagree with you on the internet sales tax; we are losing local revenue, and local jobs, when people send money out of state via the internet. It costs us tax revenues. Sales tax goes to local govt., shouldn´t we collect it here? Just my

The law already requires sales tax to be paid on items purchased in a state where the business your purchasing from has a brick and mortar operation, whether it be a store, warehouse or whatever. Why should I (We) pay extra sales tax on a product from a business that has no operations locally? The state gets plenty of revenue already from business within the state. And I don't know what they are using it on but it sure as heck aint infrastructure, schools or anything else I can see.

Actually, according to the Department of Revenue lady on Gallow the other day, you already owe out of state sales tax by law, they just haven't found a way to get out of state businesses to enforce our tax laws.

Shame on Haley for the pardon. Bad show!

inthe10ring wrote:Seems like a HUGE step around the justice system!

I agree 100%, the legal system works its tail off to catch and convect this worthless piece of scat and Big Fatty decides all on his little lonesome, that this guy has not killed anyone since he's known him, so let's pardon him.

I too think the lame duck governor pardon thing needs to go, to ripe for special favors and such. Same holds true from lame duck presidents, they have made some very questionable pardons.

Maybe he's still pissed with his poll results during his brief run for President? I for one was glad he fell flat on his face, the guy is not governor material, let alone president material, but then again, look at the current crop of potential presidential candidates, not any winners there.

Don't just blame "big fatty". All the ex Governors have pardoned criminals, rightfully OR wrongfully. IIRC this helped ruin Dukakis's run for president,like he ever had a chance.
scott

And don't forget, "big fatty" also pardoned the scott sisters.
scott

Unfortunately, governors' pardoning criminals during their last days in office is all too common. I suspect the price runs about $100,000 per pardon, but I have no information to support my suspicion other than:

1. Politicians rarely do anything just to be nice guys---normally there must be something in it for them, and

2. There have got to be other criminals who are more deserving than this murderer.

Re: internet sales tax - States are not losing sales tax. In order to lose something you must first have it (or be entitled to have it.)

Sales taxes have ALWAYS been a tax on the seller---not on the purchaser. And the justification has ALWAYS been that cities and states had to get the revenue in order to provide the streets, police and fire protection, and other infrastructure necessary to enable the stores to exist.

Of course, the states and cities have become accustomed to the income and don't want to give it up; so they now change their rationale for sales taxes.

It is not unlike they did in the old days (until the 1960s) regarding motor vehicle tags.

Until then, the cost of tags was based upon the weight of the vehicle---tags for big Buicks and Caddilacs cost more than tags for a Chevy or Ford. But in the late 1960s people began buying smaller cars. But these smaller cars cost more than the big heavy cars.

So Mississippi did the only thing they could: They started charging for tags based upon the value of the car rather than the weight.

With electric cars on the horizon, states are trying to figure a way to tax your mileage rather than the gasoline tax they have become addicted to.

Truth is states and cities don't give up revenue any easier than individuals do when conditions change.

I'm surprised that states don't tax car purchases to support buggy whip manufacturers who are no longer needed.

I'm having a lot of trouble getting past this one. Really, really a terrible decision in my opinion. I can't imagine how upset the family of the victim must be. I would be furious.

mascott wrote:And don't forget, "big fatty" also pardoned the scott sisters.
scott

No, he did not. He commuted their sentence. A horrible decision, but at least he did not pardon them (although they are still lobbying for a pardon). But it would have made more sense to pardon them then to pardon this guy. It still would have been wrong and a terrible idea, but not as bad as this.

Gonzo