Why don't CCW permit holders get a discount on gun purchases?

45flattop wrote:IF and only IF we could get ALL the gun shop and big store employees who sell guns
to recognize that they don't have to do a call in check that alone would be progress,
I cannot count the number of places and utter mindless bozos I've dealt with over the
last few years who insisted on calling in anyway and a few have even questioned the
validity of a permit at all, makes you wonder where they've been living for the last
decade and a half and if they weren't BORN with rectocranial inverstion!!
Actually if shops would post a sign advertising even a small discount if you have
a CCW permit I bet their sales would seriously increase, I like the idea.

45flattop wrote:"It's true that many places do not realize they don't have to call if the buyer has a permit, but many still like to run a NICS check because it's just another assurance that the person has a clean background. I know that the permit shows you can pass a NICS check, but if you have 2 government-passed indications that a person's record is clean it will, in theory, look better to the ATF if/when they come inspect your paperwork. Of course, this is completely unnecessary and I agree with all who have posted that permit holders should get a discount, $5 seems fair. When I get my FFL that's what I had planned to do."

I have to respectfully disagree, its not an FFL holder's job to run an unnecessary double
background check on me if I have a valid permit, this is as insulting and intrusive as in
the wake of the 1968 GCA when every time I wanted to buy even a 50 round box of .22LR
I had to sign a log and show my D/L. If the law permits a permit holder to skip the NICS
check, so be it and if the ATF thugs want to hassle the FFL holder later, they should have
lawsuits laid on their sorry behinds faster than rain falling. We endure enough crud from
these thugs already and as we've seen in Fast and Furious nothing happens to the real
bad actors with badges out there anyway, just some unrelated supervisors get transferred
or reprimanded.

45flattop wrote:I have to respectfully disagree, its not an FFL holder's job to run an unnecessary double background check on me if I have a valid permit, this is as insulting and intrusive as in the wake of the 1968 GCA when every time I wanted to buy even a 50 round box of .22LR I had to sign a log and show my D/L. If the law permits a permit holder to skip the NICS check, so be it and if the ATF thugs want to hassle the FFL holder later, they should have lawsuits laid on their sorry behinds faster than rain falling. We endure enough crud from these thugs already and as we've seen in Fast and Furious nothing happens to the real bad actors with badges out there anyway, just some unrelated supervisors get transferred or reprimanded.

MrClean wrote:Me personally, I don't do a background check if the person has a valid carry permit. Maybe I should (scenario coming up later) But just because it's the law, doesn't mean a shop doesn't have the right to enforce their own policies. Many don't accept firearms from individuals anymore, only other FFL holders. Not against the law, but.... much safer. I am quickly heading that way after a couple of issues.

I wouldn't be so quick to bash a shop that does a check though. Perhaps they HAVE had the ATF breathing down their necks about other frivolous things so they are going overboard just to keep them at bay? Or maybe someone HAD a permit but was still not eligible to purchase. How you may ask?......

It is possible for someone to still be holding that piece of plastic after having been in and out for a domestic violence charge as far as I know. Nobody goes and collects your permit that I am aware of, even after you are convicted. True, you won't get a renewal, but meanwhile you are holding a 'valid' looking card.

So if they get out, go home, get their permit, go buy a gun and shoot whoever put them in jail for domestic violence.... guess who the media and everyone else will crucify.... yep, the shop that sold him that weapon. And here come more laws and bans....

If someone else is aware of a process that negates that scenario please let me know and I will gladly retract all that. But I am unaware of any process that actively takes a permit away immediately.

kowen1971 wrote:I won't deny anyone the right to run their shop however they see fit. But one of the benefits and reasons I have a permit is to avoid the call in every time I purchase a firearm. They do have the right to still call me in just as I have the right to shop elsewhere.

surehuntsalot wrote:why should they?

MrClean wrote:Me personally, I don't do a background check if the person has a valid carry permit. Maybe I should (scenario coming up later) But just because it's the law, doesn't mean a shop doesn't have the right to enforce their own policies. Many don't accept firearms from individuals anymore, only other FFL holders. Not against the law, but.... much safer. I am quickly heading that way after a couple of issues.

I wouldn't be so quick to bash a shop that does a check though. Perhaps they HAVE had the ATF breathing down their necks about other frivolous things so they are going overboard just to keep them at bay? Or maybe someone HAD a permit but was still not eligible to purchase. How you may ask?......

It is possible for someone to still be holding that piece of plastic after having been in and out for a domestic violence charge as far as I know. Nobody goes and collects your permit that I am aware of, even after you are convicted. True, you won't get a renewal, but meanwhile you are holding a 'valid' looking card.

So if they get out, go home, get their permit, go buy a gun and shoot whoever put them in jail for domestic violence.... guess who the media and everyone else will crucify.... yep, the shop that sold him that weapon. And here come more laws and bans....

If someone else is aware of a process that negates that scenario please let me know and I will gladly retract all that. But I am unaware of any process that actively takes a permit away immediately.

MrClean wrote:And if I ever get off my lazy arse and send in papers..... doing it online is even simpler and quicker.