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Post by mascott on Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:39 pm

About time. I guess it would be racist if Ms did this.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/04/pennsylvania-officials-roll-out-drug-tests-for-welfare-recipients/?test=latestnews
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Re: Drug testing

Post by bubbat on Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:53 pm

mascott wrote:About time. I guess it would be racist if Ms did this.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/04/pennsylvania-officials-roll-out-drug-tests-for-welfare-recipients/?test=latestnews
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There is a bill in the Ms Legisature to have drug test right now. thumbs up

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Re: Drug testing

Post by sidroski on Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:59 pm

Fella said it ran between "20K and 77k" to catch an abuser. They said the test run as high as $76 per, you trying to tell me ~1 in 1000 (I know expenses for red tape so just roughly) is abusing drugs. Fella that said that musta been smoking some rope himself.

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Post by miker84 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:14 pm

sidroski wrote:Fella said it ran between "20K and 77k" to catch an abuser. They said the test run as high as $76 per, you trying to tell me ~1 in 1000 (I know expenses for red tape so just roughly) is abusing drugs. Fella that said that musta been smoking some rope himself.


The little kits we use at work are about $7 each. So that means the govt is probably willing to pay $70.

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Post by savageshooter on Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:43 pm

is there a book that you can use to study for the drug test? lol

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Post by Tree of Liberty on Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:22 pm

I have a copy of the legislation sitting around somewhere in my desk. I received it at a gun show on the Coast last year

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Post by lpdb185 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:08 pm

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2012/pdf/history/SB/SB2191.xml

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Re: Drug testing

Post by TankerHC on Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:08 am

"Opponents claim the proposals are unfair and not cost effective. A Feb. 3 brief by the Center for Law and Social Policy, a low-income advocacy nonprofit, cited a 1996 study that found the proportion of welfare recipients with a substance abuse problem is consistent with the proportion of nonwelfare recipients with the same."

Non-Profit, they still make money, only these people are making off "Advocating" for the poor. On the bottom sentence I call BS! Whenever you read about these drug studies the poor always use drugs disproportionately to the middle class and rich. In fact, drug use among the poor is always used by the "advocacy" groups to demonstrate the unfairness to the poor.



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Post by NRA_guy on Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:47 am

News today is that Pennsylvania has started drug testing welfare recipients.

But because Florida got stopped by a Federal judge in their plan to drug test all welfare recipients (possible 4th Amendment issue), Pennsylvania is only randomly drug testing welfare recipients who have been arrested within the past 5 years, or something along those lines.

The article said that lots of other states are initiating similar laws.

And Florida is appealing the Court Order that stopped them.

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Post by msredneck on Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:00 am

I have to piss in a cup rather frequently on the "random" drugs tests at work...

Why shouldn't they

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Post by MrsHighBrass on Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:48 pm

I wholeheartedly support the concept of drug testing welfare recipients but testing everyone is impractical and not many will fail... testing EVERYONE means there are huge numbers of elderly and disabled to be tested, many are on legit Rx meds that must be validated during the testing process, etc. Plus, dopers know how to pass a SCHEDULED urinalysis.

Instead of that, I'd propose anyone convicted of any crime involving drugs, DUI, theft, or violence, be disqualified from receiving benefits for xx years after conviction.

That way you don't have to test granny but you can stop subsidizing the addicts, alcoholics, and thugs.

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Post by sidroski on Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:06 pm

msredneck wrote:I have to piss in a cup rather frequently on the "random" drugs tests at work...
The testers just want to see your "manly" body 'Neck.

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Post by NRA_guy on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:34 pm

sidroski wrote:
msredneck wrote:I have to piss in a cup rather frequently on the "random" drugs tests at work...
The testers just want to see your "manly" body 'Neck.


Federal civilian tests are private in a stall.

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