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Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Ranch on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:22 am

I have an old .41 caliber derringer and I was wondering about the value.
The top of the barrel reads:
E. REMINGTON & SONS ILION, NY.
ELLIOTS PATENT DEC 12TH 1865
I think it says ELLIOTS it is hard to read





Thanks for any info.
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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Ranch on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:25 am

Sorry about the picture quality.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by captain-03 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 pm

ELLIOT'S OVER AND UNDER DERRINGER - cartridge .41 Rimfire cal., 2 shot, 3 in. superimposed barrels, oscillating firing pin, spur trigger, blue and/or nickel finish, hard rubber, walnut, ivory or pearl 2-piece grips. Approx 112,000 produced, 1867-1935. William Elliot's patent.

E. Remington & Sons Production Sixth Variation - two line address (top of barrel):: "E. REMINGTON & SONS. ILION. N.Y. ELLIOT'S PATENT DEC 12TH 1865", made with extractor (12,000 to 18,000 produced between 1870 and 1888), sequential numbering ended with this address.

100% - NA
98% - NA
95% - $3500
90% - $3250
80% - $3000
70% - $2750
60% - $2500
50% - $2000
40% - $1500
30% - $1300
20% - $1100
10% - $900

These are the so called "book" value -- rarely does one sell for this much -- BUT, it puts you in the ballpark ....

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Ranch on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:04 pm

Thanks.
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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by mascott on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:29 pm

I'll give you $200 for it. Smile
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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Ranch on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:46 pm

Thanks but no thanks. wave I have thought about selling it, because I'll probably never shoot it. One reason that I would like to keep it is because it is so old..... and it looks really cool. I do have some ammo for it. Pretty mean looking bullet. It is almost as wide as it is long.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Xd357 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:39 pm

looks good, id say its in the upper 90%.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Vick on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:45 pm

If you do decide to shoot it, check out the henge closely first. I can't see much detail in the photos, but the weak point in the derringer is the henge...it is often found to have a hairline crack that can barely be seen. Inspect it closely and, if no crack is found and it locks up tightly, its probably alright to shoot. BUT, due to the collect-ability of these guns, I probably wouldn't fire an original. Also, if your cartridges are really old, they may be worth almost as much as the gun!

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Scharfsch├╝tze on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:15 pm

Vick wrote:If you do decide to shoot it, check out the henge closely first. I can't see much detail in the photos, but the weak point in the derringer is the henge...it is often found to have a hairline crack that can barely be seen. Inspect it closely and, if no crack is found and it locks up tightly, its probably alright to shoot. BUT, due to the collect-ability of these guns, I probably wouldn't fire an original. Also, if your cartridges are really old, they may be worth almost as much as the gun!
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Even if in good condition I wouldn't fire it. The cartridges are valuable. Especially if you have the box.
IIRC this derringer (blued version) was featured in the NRA monthly magazine recently. I'll go search through mine.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by 2DARK2C on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:09 pm

WOW!!

take it to cajun pawnstars get on tv and they will overpay!seems they overpay a lot!!

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by tecolote on Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:57 pm

John Dillinger had one of those in his sock when he was arrested in
Tuscon, Arizona. At a recent auction, it went for,IIRC, $95,000.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by rdj94a on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:48 am

excellent trading fodder!

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Reloader on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:34 am

Looks refinished to me which would decrease the value. It does not have the patina of a derringer over a hundred years old. Not a scratch on it. Grips look brand new. But I could be wrong.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Doug Bowser on Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:10 pm

Grips are not original. Black hard rubber grips are standard.

It does not look like old nickel. It looks like chrome plating.

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by rdj94a on Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:19 pm

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Ranch on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:45 pm

I have had some guys look at it and they thought it might be refinished. I don't know the history of this gun except that a friend of my Dads gave it to him as a gift about 25 years ago. If fefinished what kind of value does it have???

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Re: Remington derringer - Value???

Post by Doug Bowser on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:53 am

My estimate with shootable bores would be in the $500-600 range. Those grips would have to go. They are Jay Scott grips from the 1970's. Gun Parts has repro black hard rubber grips available.

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