IMR or H 4895 and .223

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IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by BLK RIFLE on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:48 pm

I've always used H335 when I loaded for my two AR's and my Stevens 200. I saw IMR4895 was listed as a powder for .223 and was wondering if anyone used it for .223. I recently got a Garand NM form a friend and use 4895 to load for it. If someone could give me some insight into 4895 and .223 I'd appreciate it.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by M1GarandFan on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:57 pm

I use it in my .223 loads and have been very happy with the results. Shot my best Highpower Rifle Match score with a 69 gr. bullet loaded with 24 gr. of IMR 4895. Very versatile powder for me since I load for the AR, M-1 Garand, 1903A3 Springfield, .303 Enfield, Argentine Mauser, M1A, etc.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by Geno on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:23 pm

yep,works very well, real accurate

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by Mr. Squirrel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:08 pm

My .223 plinking load is 55gr fmj on top of 25gr IMR4895. Also use same powder for my 30/30.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by BLK RIFLE on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:00 pm

Thanks for all the comments. Thank you M1garandfan for the recipe. I met and talked to nonnieselman today and he told me the same so from now on I will only have to buy one powder for my rifles. Can someone tell me where I can buy 8 lbs of IMR4895 for a good price?

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by SubGunFan on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:10 pm

BLK RIFLE wrote:................... Can someone tell me where I can buy 8 lbs of IMR4895 for a good price?

There is someone on here that just started a Powder Valley group buy in the Hattiesburg area. Group buys are best for powder and primers.....

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by SubGunFan on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:14 pm

BLK RIFLE wrote:................. I met and talked to nonnieselman today and he told me the same so from now on I will only have to buy one powder for my rifles. ..................................

Yeah...... Nonnie is "good people". I haven't seen that crazy SOB on MSGO lately. Tell him to get his butt back on MSGO....... Smile

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by miker84 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:18 pm

I'm working on a mk262 clone. 4895 is close, but I think Varget is going to work best until I can figure out the Tac blend that Black Hills uses.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by dlm37015 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:39 pm

262 is loaded with smp842

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by Rw on Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:23 pm

SubGunFan wrote:
BLK RIFLE wrote:................. I met and talked to nonnieselman today and he told me the same so from now on I will only have to buy one powder for my rifles. ..................................

Yeah...... Nonnie is "good people". I haven't seen that crazy SOB on MSGO lately. Tell him to get his butt back on MSGO....... Smile

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Nonnie is good people, hes still working 2 jobs 7 days a week now i think( have not talked to him in a month or so) I think he barely has time to sleep, let alone get on here.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by Yarob on Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:15 pm

I noticed you asked about H4895 and/or IMR4895. My understanding is that while they are similar, they aren't interchangeable, dependent on the cartridge. Most of the kind folks answering your question commented on the IMR labeled product. The Hodgdon (H4895) product has the added benefit of being able to be reduced to 60% of max charge weight for reduced loads. These are fun plinkers yet also useful hunting loads. You can make your .308 or 30/06 perform like a 30/30 for kids or recoil sensitive adults and then as they get older or more proficient there's no need to buy a more powerful rifle. The IMR product may also have this benefit but Hodgdon actually has published data for the H4895 for producing the reduced loads. I've only recently started experimenting with H4895 but it would be sweet to reduce your power needs down to one type.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by nonnieselman on Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:03 pm

Im around... sometimes.. Very Happy 60-80hrs a week doesnt leave much play time.

I used a bunch of diff powders in the 223.. mostly WC846 here lately till i got some jugs of WC842.. very hot stuff..

But 25gr imr 4895 is a good load for 55gr stuff..

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by nonnieselman on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:33 pm

Back to this...

i worked up a load of 842 with 75gr bullets... man that stuff is silly hot got up to 21gr and started getting some deep swipes..
backed it down to 20.5gr and it shoots ok.

Trying some primed 5.56 2011 LC brass and 77gr in my new barrel. we will see how it does.

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by n10sivern on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:58 pm

BLK RIFLE wrote:Thanks for all the comments. Thank you M1garandfan for the recipe. I met and talked to nonnieselman today and he told me the same so from now on I will only have to buy one powder for my rifles. Can someone tell me where I can buy 8 lbs of IMR4895 for a good price?

I have an 8 pound jug of IMR4895 that I don't use and haven't used that I will sell to you for $130

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Re: IMR or H 4895 and .223

Post by cottondoctor on Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:13 pm

4895 works great in the 223. I have a Jones powder measure and a Redding bench rest powder measure and they throw very consistent charges with 4895. I have loaded the 55 grain bullets with 25 grains - the 69 grain bthp gets 24.

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