HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
Here's a shocking one.....Surplus City in Clinton! Went in there today and saw that no loaded guns are allowed, except LEOs. It was definitely far from being within the legal guidelines but just the same I was shocked.
I know most ranges have rules about reloading and concealing a firearm before you leave the premises but I've never seen that in a gun shop, connected to their indoor range or not it's
....it is at least on the range/shop building.
I know most ranges have rules about reloading and concealing a firearm before you leave the premises but I've never seen that in a gun shop, connected to their indoor range or not it's
....it is at least on the range/shop building.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
Ok, this answer may be right infront of my face but I'm not getting it. I just read this whole thread and everyone keeps saying that the signs are not legal because there either not worded properly OR not near the entrance. I read the state stuff and I get the wording part, but it does not say it has to be at the entrance...just visiable from atleast 10ft. Does this open the businesses up for saying "its posted and up to your redneck
to find it"? Just wondering what the rest of the good pistol packin folks of the state think.
to find it"? Just wondering what the rest of the good pistol packin folks of the state think.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
The problem is that the is no test court case or Atty Gen opinion. It is perfectly clear what the law says about the signs, but that will not keep you from being arrested if you carry where the sign is not "legal" meaning exactly like it describes in the law.
Personally, I carry in places where they have no gun signs except for the ones that are in the law. I interperate them as "no guns for everyone who doesn't have a permit". If they wanted to keep out people with and without permits, they would have use the legal language on the entrance and visable from at least 10 feet.
You need to do what you feel comfortable with. If you are truly concealed, then it should never be a problem.
Personally, I carry in places where they have no gun signs except for the ones that are in the law. I interperate them as "no guns for everyone who doesn't have a permit". If they wanted to keep out people with and without permits, they would have use the legal language on the entrance and visable from at least 10 feet.
You need to do what you feel comfortable with. If you are truly concealed, then it should never be a problem.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
What a. Patriot said!
You asked about 10 feet from the entrance and what not. Well take Waffle House for example. Each and every waffle house I've ever seen has a sign saying no guns.....well it's usually on the entrance side of the building, but at the far end(non windowed end).....well if I didn't park on that end how would I be able to read that from 10 feet away. If its posted at the entrance, well any boob coming through the door should be able to notice it....but since it's not at the entrance, there is no way to say without a shadow of a doubt that "such and such saw that sign so he knew he couldn't carry there"
You asked about 10 feet from the entrance and what not. Well take Waffle House for example. Each and every waffle house I've ever seen has a sign saying no guns.....well it's usually on the entrance side of the building, but at the far end(non windowed end).....well if I didn't park on that end how would I be able to read that from 10 feet away. If its posted at the entrance, well any boob coming through the door should be able to notice it....but since it's not at the entrance, there is no way to say without a shadow of a doubt that "such and such saw that sign so he knew he couldn't carry there"

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
jakeg823 wrote:Here's a shocking one.....Surplus City in Clinton! Went in there today and saw that no loaded guns are allowed, except LEOs. It was definitely far from being within the legal guidelines but just the same I was shocked.
I know most ranges have rules about reloading and concealing a firearm before you leave the premises but I've never seen that in a gun shop, connected to their indoor range or not it's....it is at least on the range/shop building.
Pretty sure this is an insurance/liability issue. Rule is similar to Magnolia's rule re:loaded and unloaded firearms. The back store (away from the range) is not posted and I open carry in there frequently. Bet there was a lawyer involved with the sign. Come to think of it, that sign has been in place since the range opened. It was called Gunsmiths Incorporated back in the day. Surplus City bought it later and built the back store.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
Yeah, at magnolia, as I recall from the orientation a year or two ago, if you are carrying it's fine, but they don't want you loading one and then concealing it until you're out of the gate....I'm assuming that's more of a safety/liability thing which I get. But just a "no loaded guns" sign on the door of a gun shop....little ridiculous in my mind.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
I'm at Baptist Hospital in Jackson. Our one year old is having tubes put in his ears. While I didn't see any signage at the entrance there is a small "no firearms" at the bottom of some admittance paperwork. My wife filled it out and I was looking through it upstairs before I saw it. I'm carrying my Glock 23 in a OWB. Thankfully most people are oblivious and I could easily be mistaken for a cop if I were observed by the rare non-oblividiot.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
jakeg823 wrote:Here's a shocking one.....Surplus City in Clinton! Went in there today and saw that no loaded guns are allowed, except LEOs. It was definitely far from being within the legal guidelines but just the same I was shocked.
I know most ranges have rules about reloading and concealing a firearm before you leave the premises but I've never seen that in a gun shop, connected to their indoor range or not it's....it is at least on the range/shop building.
I was in there last week and asked the guy behind the counter and he told me that it didnt apply to permit holders. Said they welcome permit holders to carry.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
The Forrest County Multipurpose Center in Hattiesburg has a no firearms sign posted. It's real funny when the gun show is going on!
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
The Gander Mountain store in Hattiesburg has a sign posted that says permitted concealed carry weapons are welcome.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
jackruff wrote:The Gander Mountain store in Hattiesburg has a sign posted that says permitted concealed carry weapons are welcome.
Yeah I want to say I posted a picture of it on this thread somewhere.
And thanks for the clarification DHollis, still wish they'd clarify it some like Gander'a sign....oh well. I never go out there just because it's so far to go when they just don't have much to look at.

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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
They should put these up instead!



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AG's Opinion on Signage
According to the AG's Opinion, the sign is null IF you have an enhanced concealed carry permit. I highlighted the section that addresses this directly.
Am I interpreting this correctly
See the attached file.
Am I interpreting this correctly
See the attached file.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
To me, it appears that the AG opinion speaks specifically to, and only to, county property (including a courthouse).
It's good to see enhanced carry protected even when the sheriff wants to restrict it.
I'm all for private-property rights and property owners choosing to disallow carry; I'm also all for not giving my business to those places.
It's good to see enhanced carry protected even when the sheriff wants to restrict it.
I'm all for private-property rights and property owners choosing to disallow carry; I'm also all for not giving my business to those places.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
I read it differently.
HB506 does not distinguish between public, county, or private property owners. That was done by the AG to ensure that Lee County knew it was not exempt from HB506.
HB506 specifically states: A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training, or by any other organization approved by the Department of Public Safety, shall also be authorized to carry weapons in courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of Section 97 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined in Section 98 95-3-1, any police, sheriff or highway patrol station or any 99 detention facility, prison or jail.
So, in 45-9-101, Section 13, businesses had 'the carrying of a stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in any place in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the “carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited.”'
Now, with HB506 that is not the case. It makes Section 13 of 45-9-101 exempt, if you have the endorsement, enhancement, or whatever they decide it is to be called. The only exceptions are active courtrooms, LEO offices/jails, and "places of nuisance".
And for those who may be wondering, the Judges of the First Judicial District of the State of Mississippi enacted an order declaring their entire courthouse an "active courtroom" in order to prohibit weapons and keep paying to LEOs to sit at the door and ask if you have a weapon. Ain't that some crap! Legislating from the bench.
HB506 does not distinguish between public, county, or private property owners. That was done by the AG to ensure that Lee County knew it was not exempt from HB506.
HB506 specifically states: A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training, or by any other organization approved by the Department of Public Safety, shall also be authorized to carry weapons in courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of Section 97 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined in Section 98 95-3-1, any police, sheriff or highway patrol station or any 99 detention facility, prison or jail.
So, in 45-9-101, Section 13, businesses had 'the carrying of a stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in any place in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the “carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited.”'
Now, with HB506 that is not the case. It makes Section 13 of 45-9-101 exempt, if you have the endorsement, enhancement, or whatever they decide it is to be called. The only exceptions are active courtrooms, LEO offices/jails, and "places of nuisance".
And for those who may be wondering, the Judges of the First Judicial District of the State of Mississippi enacted an order declaring their entire courthouse an "active courtroom" in order to prohibit weapons and keep paying to LEOs to sit at the door and ask if you have a weapon. Ain't that some crap! Legislating from the bench.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
This is all pretty confusing. So is I have an enhanced license where exactly can I go that I can't without the regular?
I'm planning on taking the class the 22nd but if it's not going to get me anywhere significant then maybe I shouldn't. Are schools and bars still off limits?
I don't really care about courtrooms for myself because I've only had to visit one twice in 15 years for simple traffic tickets.
I'm planning on taking the class the 22nd but if it's not going to get me anywhere significant then maybe I shouldn't. Are schools and bars still off limits?
I don't really care about courtrooms for myself because I've only had to visit one twice in 15 years for simple traffic tickets.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
ChuckECheese's in Horn Lake....it's inside between sets of doors.
Lander's Center ( formerly Desoto Civic Center ) in Southaven, it's inside also and not to the state language, also classifies pocket knives as weapons. Sportsmans Warehouse in Southaven has sign for checking weapons, must be unloaded and cased, but only if you plan to remove weapon inside, i.e. test fitting holsters.
Lander's Center ( formerly Desoto Civic Center ) in Southaven, it's inside also and not to the state language, also classifies pocket knives as weapons. Sportsmans Warehouse in Southaven has sign for checking weapons, must be unloaded and cased, but only if you plan to remove weapon inside, i.e. test fitting holsters.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
Like I needed another reason to avoid ChuckECheese, I try to avoid that place before I carried.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
I noticed recently, while at the gun show, that the Forrest County Multipurpose Center in Hattiesburg no longer has the sign banning firearms. But the gun show itself had a sign saying that no loaded firearms, including concealed carry, were allowed. The Center is a public facilty so the new law clearly makes it illegal to ban legally carried firearms.
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Re: HALL OF SHAME: Places of business in Ms that have a no firearm sign posted
Amen, brother!mulligan918 wrote:Like I needed another reason to avoid ChuckECheese, I try to avoid that place before I carried.

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