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Post by revreb15miss on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:11 am

Conspiracy Theory Alarm is Sounding!!!!!!!!!!!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Army - coming your way!

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-obamas-brown-shirts-homeland-youth-2503808.html

from the article: "October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country."

holy sheep shtf What??? no


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Post by Vick on Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:24 pm

This is indeed disturbing...I don't believe that FEMA has the constitutional right to raise an army or to arm anyone other than possibly a legally constituted and PAID law enforcement arm under the Homeland Security banner. This is going to have to come under a lot more scrutiny.

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:43 pm

in before someone shows up to tell you how wrong you are rotflmao

you see nussing.....

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Post by bubbat on Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:58 pm

When someone shows up with proof this so called "army" of a total of a planned 1600 people across the country is being armed and trained for combat, I'll get worried, until then I'll just have to assume it is what it is, a unit to help with national disasters.

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Post by BeRichH on Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:12 pm

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but FEMA is not a law enforcement agency and I doubt it will ever be. DHS has several law enforcement components.

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Post by Scharfschütze on Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:34 pm

BeRichH wrote:I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but FEMA is not a law enforcement agency and I doubt it will ever be. DHS has several law enforcement components.
And now they have indocrinated youth to help them.
No, this is not the Hitler Youth. This is more like the East German FDJ, the "Freie Deutsche Jugend", the 'free German youth' movement. Membership was a prerequisite prior to being admitted as a member of the Democrat - oops I mean socialist unity party (SED) in East Germany, now known as "Die Linken" there, "the Left".
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-obamas-brown-shirts-homeland-youth/23898/

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:30 pm

thanks for that post sharfschutze.

just from our limited discussion on german spelling looks like your screen name translates to sharp shooter. or is it shoots strait? or am i way off ?

i guess the answer could br "C" all of the above lol

i think the election of nazi party members in greece shows that the economy plays a big part in what a society will tolerate. these youth groups always remind me of the puppies from animal farm.

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Post by bubbat on Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:26 pm

Question- Since that article is calling them Obama's Brownshirt, if Romney is elected are they then going to be Romney's Brownshirts?

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:28 pm

YES

only speaking for myself of course, but i don't see a distinction in political party.

in my mind george bush 1 is to blame here. not his son, and not the kenyan.

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:07 pm

Show me where FEMA and not DHS purchased weapons ammo and armored vehicles. ICE is not FEMA btw.

Show me documentation of FEMA paramilitary or LEO training.

Where did that photo come from? Certainly different. I'll kiss the fattest part of your Hienie if it is actually a FEMA corps photo.

http://www.fema.gov/fema-corps

This is just another waste of money government job program used to gather votes. No aliens here aside from the ones from Mexico.

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Post by 94LEVERFAN on Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:21 pm

Speaking of FEMA.....

One day last week I was at the local adult beverage watering hole shooting the breeze with some friends. New guy, never seen him before comes in. Nice guy, very personable, friendly, starts a conversation. Up here from Florida, working out of Clinton for FEMA. Been here since Issac. WOULD NOT TELL ME WHAT HE DOES FOR FEMA. Said they didn't like employees telling what they do. Other than that, very likeable fella.

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:25 pm

wave

likn can lead to lovn and i don't like where it goes from there !

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Post by bubbat on Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:35 pm

nothing wrote:Show me where FEMA and not DHS purchased weapons ammo and armored vehicles. ICE is not FEMA btw.

Show me documentation of FEMA paramilitary or LEO training.

Where did that photo come from? Certainly different. I'll kiss the fattest part of your Hienie if it is actually a FEMA corps photo.

http://www.fema.gov/fema-corps

This is just another waste of money government job program used to gather votes. No aliens here aside from the ones from Mexico.

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If you do a google search for the photo you will see they have airsoft guns,don't think it's of the FEMA Corps either, it's on a couple of conspiracy theory websites, saying it Boy Scouts from California being trained it take out guns. groan

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:33 pm

By convention, irregular military is understood in contrast to regular armies
which grew slowly from personal bodyguards or elite militia.
Regular in this case refers to standardized doctrines, uniforms, organizations, etc. Regular military can also refer to full-time status,
versus Reserve or part-time personnel. Other distinctions may separate statutory
forces (established under laws such as the National Defence Act,
from de facto "non-statutory" forces such as some guerrilla and
revolutionary armies.


Intense debates can build up over which of these terms to use when referring
to a specific group. Using one term over another can imply either strong
support or opposition for the cause being fought over.
It is possible for a military to cross the line between regular
and irregular. Isolated regular army units forced to operate without
regular support for long periods of time can degrade into irregulars.
As an irregular military becomes more successful, they may transition away
from irregular, even to the point of becoming the new regular army if they win.



However, irregulars can excel at many other combat duties besides
main-line combat, such as scouting, skirmishing, harassing, pursuing,
rear-guard actions, cutting supply, sabotage, raids, ambushes and underground
resistance.
Experienced irregulars often surpass the regular army in these
functions. By avoiding formal battles, irregulars have sometimes harassed high
quality armies to destruction.


A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers of
an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines,
or a country's borders.A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret
introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.

i always thought 5th column was referring to greek column construction.
it takes four columns to hold up the roof and a fifth would be suspect
and unnecessary.

this is grossly wrong.


Emilio Mola, a Nationalist General during the Spanish Civil War,
told a journalist in 1936 that as his four columns of troops approached
Madrid, a "fifth column" of supporters inside the city would support him and
undermine the Republican government from within.[3] The term was then widely
used in Spain. Ernest Hemingway used it as the title of his only play, which
he wrote in Madrid while the city was being bombarded and published in 1938
in his book The Fifth Column and the First Forty-Nine Stories.[4]

i have been doing some learnin' today thumbs up

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Post by NRA_guy on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:01 pm

I think the article linked in the OP is a bad attempt at humor. The source link at the bottom of the web site does not load.

There has been no mention of any of this in the local Vicksburg paper and no rumors about it. The only thing going on in Vicksburg is a branch of something called Americorps.

It's a Federal program that brings kids to Vicksburg from all around the country and they go out and do organized charitable things like paint a building or something. They stay in an old boarding school. I think they get room and board and a small salary.

They are supposed to be learning how to work---kind of like the Peace Corps or Civilian Conservation Corps of old. They do graduate and move on and a new group comes in.

Here is a link:

http://www.americorps.gov/

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Post by Scharfschütze on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:36 pm

NRA_guy wrote:I think the article linked in the OP is a bad attempt at humor. The source link at the bottom of the web site does not load.

There has been no mention of any of this in the local Vicksburg paper and no rumors about it. The only thing going on in Vicksburg is a branch of something called Americorps.

It's a Federal program that brings kids to Vicksburg from all around the country and they go out and do organized charitable things like paint a building or something. They stay in an old boarding school. I think they get room and board and a small salary.

They are supposed to be learning how to work---kind of like the Peace Corps or Civilian Conservation Corps of old. They do graduate and move on and a new group comes in.

Here is a link:

http://www.americorps.gov/

Glen Beck referenced this on his radio program Friday, and to put it in context he played audio of The Prez saying we "need a civilian force just as well-funded as the military for here at home" or something similar, that is a VERY rough paraphrase, I can't find nor recall the exact quote right now...but the Prez did call for an armed civilian force, supposedly under the jurisdiction of DHS. Beck's argument was that this "new" DHS-attached AmeriCorps group was the precursor, since they are to be deployed in case of "domestic emergerncy", which is open to broad interpretation.

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Post by BeRichH on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:45 pm

Well......in high school, I was a member of "Learn and Serve America". It was the high school component of Americorps and was my favorite extra curricular activity! All we did was volunteer. We painted, put up basketball goals, planted flowers and shrubs, put on holiday programs for the nursing home (and made random visits to the nursing home and so on.
I can't tell you what these programs are about now but it's one of two things I miss about high school.

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Post by bubbat on Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:11 pm

NRA_guy wrote:I think the article linked in the OP is a bad attempt at humor. The source link at the bottom of the web site does not load.

There has been no mention of any of this in the local Vicksburg paper and no rumors about it. The only thing going on in Vicksburg is a branch of something called Americorps.

It's a Federal program that brings kids to Vicksburg from all around the country and they go out and do organized charitable things like paint a building or something. They stay in an old boarding school. I think they get room and board and a small salary.

They are supposed to be learning how to work---kind of like the Peace Corps or Civilian Conservation Corps of old. They do graduate and move on and a new group comes in.

Here is a link:

http://www.americorps.gov/


Here another link to the FEMA Corp.
http://www.fema.gov/fema-corps

On March 13, 2012, the White House announced an innovative partnership between the Department of Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) to establish a FEMA-devoted unit of 1,600 service corps members within AmeriCorps National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC) solely devoted to disaster preparedness, response, and recovery. This partnership builds on the historic collaboration between the two agencies and will enhance the federal government’s disaster capabilities, increase the reliability and diversity of the disaster workforce, promote an ethic of service, expand education and economic opportunity for young people, and achieve significant cost savings for the American taxpayer. When the program is at full operational capability, and in an average disaster year, we expect to see a savings of approximately $60 million in a year.

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:52 pm

So apparently I was incorrect about my wasting tax payer funds assessment.

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Post by bubbat on Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:59 pm

nothing wrote:So apparently I was incorrect about my wasting tax payer funds assessment.

Naw, you know better that that, if the Gov't says it will save a $1 it cost an additional $1mil.

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:09 pm

2DARK2C wrote:
By convention, irregular military is understood in contrast to regular armies
which grew slowly from personal bodyguards or elite militia.
Regular in this case refers to standardized doctrines, uniforms, organizations, etc. Regular military can also refer to full-time status,
versus Reserve or part-time personnel. Other distinctions may separate statutory
forces (established under laws such as the National Defence Act,
from de facto "non-statutory" forces such as some guerrilla and
revolutionary armies.


Intense debates can build up over which of these terms to use when referring
to a specific group. Using one term over another can imply either strong
support or opposition for the cause being fought over.
It is possible for a military to cross the line between regular
and irregular. Isolated regular army units forced to operate without
regular support for long periods of time can degrade into irregulars.
As an irregular military becomes more successful, they may transition away
from irregular, even to the point of becoming the new regular army if they win.



However, irregulars can excel at many other combat duties besides
main-line combat, such as scouting, skirmishing, harassing, pursuing,
rear-guard actions, cutting supply, sabotage, raids, ambushes and underground
resistance.
Experienced irregulars often surpass the regular army in these
functions. By avoiding formal battles, irregulars have sometimes harassed high
quality armies to destruction.


A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers of
an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines,
or a country's borders.A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret
introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.

i always thought 5th column was referring to greek column construction.
it takes four columns to hold up the roof and a fifth would be suspect
and unnecessary.

this is grossly wrong.


Emilio Mola, a Nationalist General during the Spanish Civil War,
told a journalist in 1936 that as his four columns of troops approached
Madrid, a "fifth column" of supporters inside the city would support him and
undermine the Republican government from within.[3] The term was then widely
used in Spain. Ernest Hemingway used it as the title of his only play, which
he wrote in Madrid while the city was being bombarded and published in 1938
in his book The Fifth Column and the First Forty-Nine Stories.[4]

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You lost me like last years Easter egg. Are you saying FEMA corps is a a band of former irregular "fifth column" militias that has been legitimized by the government into regulars?

What exactly is there training and how can a legitimate standing government have a fifth column?

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:10 pm

bubbat wrote:
nothing wrote:So apparently I was incorrect about my wasting tax payer funds assessment.

Naw, you know better that that, if the Gov't says it will save a $1 it cost an additional $1mil.

QFT

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Post by NRA_guy on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:13 am

As we all know, it's all about buying votes (also known as "redistributing the wealth"), and if the libs can get in some warping of the minds of our youth, it's a twofer.

Add a little social engineering and we have a real winner in the eyes of liberal politicians.

That's basically what the Americorps is: just one more step in transforming the US from a capitalist nation into a communist nation.

The idea that children would be called to respond to a real national emergency is ridiculous. Anybody recall seeing them cleaning the beaches or picking up oily birds after the oil spill? How about after Katrina?


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Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:52 am

i'm not saying anything-

i will tell you this, i work with a SF guy who point blank told me that if he got orders to disarm civilians he'd follow them, no questions asked. i told him for his own safety stay away from holmes county.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:50 am

PM me the name of the SF guy, I know several of them. Aside from that, here is a news flash. The military is made of normal folks with a broad spectrum of ideals and opinions. I don't see how that proves the existance of the FEMA militia

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:01 am

burdon of proof is not on me..

not comfortable pm'ing you his name. i tried to get him to join this site, he would rather watch youtube videos and play angry birds. if you fallow the link posted by sharfshutze you will find a lot of info. it might be 99% incorrect, but i doubt it. if you can wade through the politics and take a step back from your beleifs, maybe you can find some truth. come back and share it with us, instead of poopooing on everyone elses thoughts.

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Post by Scharfschütze on Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:56 am

2DARK2C wrote:i'm not saying anything-

i will tell you this, i work with a SF guy who point blank told me that if he got orders to disarm civilians he'd follow them, no questions asked. i told him for his own safety stay away from holmes county.
I believe any military / LE would follow such orders. Think what would happen if they refuse to follow orders: jail, loss of income, end of career. If there is ever a situation in which civilian disarmament is ordered, it won't be some blue-helmeted UN troops from eastern Europe, it will be National Guard (probably not local though) and / or federal, state, local LE agencies. They all have families, need their jobs, and won't endanger their own livelihoods by refusing such orders. The "banality of evil" is the term, I believe, that was coined to describe how ordinary people come to commit crimes and atrocities in the name of governments or movements. IF it ever comes down to disarmament, it will be average Americans "following orders".

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Post by BeRichH on Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:53 pm

NRA_guy wrote:The idea that children would be called to respond to a real national emergency is ridiculous. Anybody recall seeing them cleaning the beaches or picking up oily birds after the oil spill? How about after Katrina?


The age range for FEMA Corps is 18-24. If those "children" can't respond to a "real national emergency" then they surely shouldn't be serving in our military!

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:16 pm

a few of the most disturbing quotes, from the same author

maybe he is a liar, or crazy, or spredding propaganda. if so he's got one heck of an imagination.


ARIZONA says:
October 18, 2012 at 10:12 pm
theres a lot more then 250 ,we watched them training at their ranch in cimmeron ,nm and there were at least 500 the day we were there and they had on their little nazi uniforms,and had there 40 cal. machine guns,hanging around their neck and there wasn’t a one OVER 12-14yrs.OLD………………………I know I asked them how old they were,and there weren’t many over 12yrs old.GIRL SCOUTS TO……………….with guns and a bad attiude………………..

ARIZONA says:
October 18, 2012 at 10:20 pm
hey japoa,they aren’t going to knock ,we went to the training camp in cimmeron n.m. and two or three of them blew the doors off the hinges and rushed in with guns blazing.10 or 15 in the group went rushing in the door and fired till their clips were empty…….YOU BETTER SEE THEM COMING or you won’t have a chance I’am telling you………………

i am stumped on the "40 cal" machine guns. which i am going to look into. i assume the large quantity of 40 that they ordered is why he says it. the only 40cal machine gun i am aware of is possibly a selectfire glock or maybe a hk.

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Post by bubbat on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:24 pm

NRA_guy wrote:The idea that children would be called to respond to a real national emergency is ridiculous. Anybody recall seeing them cleaning the beaches or picking up oily birds after the oil spill? How about after Katrina?

Yes there were a lot of "children" who helped clean up after Katrina and the Gulf oil spill. FEMA Corp 18-24 College Student 17-24+

http://www.manchester.edu/news/Archives/KatrinaSpringBreak06.htm

http://www.nrn.org/2012/08/13/kids-trade-spring-break-for-a-chance-to-help/

http://www.geneva.edu/object/springbreak_missions

http://www.christianindex.org/5483.article.print

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/louisiana_college_students_fin.html

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Post by BeRichH on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:25 pm

Glock never made a select fire .40cal. The Glock 18 is 9mm. The MP5 has 9mm, 10mm and .40s&w variants (that I know of for sure).

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:38 pm

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/10/hes-constitutionalist.html

this is slightly off topic, but is relevent to the overall point if read in context.

i am not sure how we have degressed to discussing "who volunteered" to clean up katrina. i think it's more relevant to remember the national guard taking a little old ladies handgun post katrina.

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Post by bubbat on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:51 pm

2DARK2C wrote:i am not sure how we have degressed to discussing "who volunteered" to clean up katrina.

Because some one said this

"The idea that children would be called to respond to a real national emergency is ridiculous. Anybody recall seeing them cleaning the beaches or picking up oily birds after the oil spill? How about after Katrina?" thumbs up

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:00 pm

2DARK2C wrote:http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/10/hes-constitutionalist.html

this is slightly off topic, but is relevent to the overall point if read in context.

i am not sure how we have degressed to discussing "who volunteered" to clean up katrina. i think it's more relevant to remember the national guard taking a little old ladies handgun post katrina.

How is that relevant or evidence of he FEMA militia? Multiple government agencies are guilty of illegally confiscating civilian firearms and it is well documented. It has been executed from the individual level all the way up to the executive level. I don't think the Americorps was doing any of that.

Why not spend more time addressing proven issues instead of going down the rabbit hole?

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:02 pm

2DARK2C wrote:burdon of proof is not on me..

If you want to present it as fact it is. I'm only asking because everyone is SF except for me.


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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:20 pm

2DARK2C wrote:a few of the most disturbing quotes, from the same author

maybe he is a liar, or crazy, or spredding propaganda. if so he's got one heck of an imagination.


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October 18, 2012 at 10:12 pm
theres a lot more then 250 ,we watched them training at their ranch in cimmeron ,nm and there were at least 500 the day we were there and they had on their little nazi uniforms,and had there 40 cal. machine guns,hanging around their neck and there wasn’t a one OVER 12-14yrs.OLD………………………I know I asked them how old they were,and there weren’t many over 12yrs old.GIRL SCOUTS TO……………….with guns and a bad attiude………………..

ARIZONA says:
October 18, 2012 at 10:20 pm
hey japoa,they aren’t going to knock ,we went to the training camp in cimmeron n.m. and two or three of them blew the doors off the hinges and rushed in with guns blazing.10 or 15 in the group went rushing in the door and fired till their clips were empty…….YOU BETTER SEE THEM COMING or you won’t have a chance I’am telling you………………

i am stumped on the "40 cal" machine guns. which i am going to look into. i assume the large quantity of 40 that they ordered is why he says it. the only 40cal machine gun i am aware of is possibly a selectfire glock or maybe a hk.

Where are you getting this? So if I just publish some random article you'll believe it? What is the source for info?

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:59 pm

the link is on page one of this thred

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:00 pm

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-obamas-brown-shirts-homeland-youth/23898/


http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-obamas-brown-shirts-homeland-youth/23898/

These links?

Brother, you have been duped. The have posted random photos, weak quotes and flat out lies. Why are there no links to ource documents? Why are the photos so small and not from FEMA?

The armored vehicles, the black ones pictured belong to ICE. The tan MaxPRO is for the army. The contracts for weapons and ammo go to DHS which has ICE, secret service, border patrol and the coast guard among others. They also run the largest federal law enforcement training academy in the US.

Those sites are the conspiracy you seek. They are intentionally misleading you.

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:38 pm

i don't have a brother and who said i beleive anything on that site.

you are just looking for a fight and your barking up the wrong tree.
read my posts and yours. you are the one stating facts. since every post devolves into me and you talking why even have a forum at all.

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:55 pm

Really, because you have been willing to argue with me for 8 days straight. It's been amazingly fun.


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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:07 pm

has it been eight days allready drinks

we should probably have an anniversary @ 10 days

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:10 pm

I'm down, even though my wife is getting jealous.

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:11 pm

matter of fact i'm really upset that you havn't even noticed my new avatar...

you have to admit it's clever and wrong on so many levels BAN

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Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:12 pm

my wife is glad i am leaving her alone.....lmao

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:15 pm

I'm sorry, actually I did notice and it's a very lovely avatar, but I find it difficult to believe he actually likes freebird. He probably thinks the black crows wrote it.

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:18 pm

i can read between the lines you are "jealous again"

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by cdwolf on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:27 pm

You two crack me up.
Yes, the government does things that don't have a link to prove it.
The problem with conspiracy theories is 8 out of 10 are just that, but the 2 can be eye opening.
We will all find out shortly.

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by 2DARK2C on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:30 pm

http://www.gunreports.com/news/ammo/Winchester-ICE-Homeland-Security-ICE_1460-1.html

lots of posts in comments with wild and crazy talk hmmmm

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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:48 pm

This one is easy, it's an IDIQ contract. Indefinite delivery indefinite quantity.

http://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/103926

Indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity contracts provide for an indefinite quantity of services for a fixed time. They are used when GSA can’t determine, above a specified minimum, the precise quantities of supplies or services that the government will require during the contract period. IDIQs help streamline the contract process and speed service delivery.

IDIQ contracts are most often used for service contracts and architect-engineering services. Awards are usually for base years and option years. The government places delivery orders (for supplies) or task orders (for services) against a basic contract for individual requirements. Minimum and maximum quantity limits are specified in the basic contract as either number of units (for supplies) or as dollar values (for services).


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Re: In Vicksburg!!! The new DHS Brown Shirt Youth Army!

Post by Guest on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:52 pm

cdwolf wrote:You two crack me up.
Yes, the government does things that don't have a link to prove it.
The problem with conspiracy theories is 8 out of 10 are just that, but the 2 can be eye opening.
We will all find out shortly.

Yep, I just get a kick out some this stuff. Who lets there 12 year old kid go to summer camp to run around with SMGs learning linear ambushes and advanced guard formations from the government? How do they advertise? Yet we have valid cinspiricies like gun walking, watergate, ruby ridge, Waco etc.

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