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Post by Canman on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:21 am

Anybody out there use it? I have loaded WC846 and WC814 for my AR. I bought 40lbs of the stuff for $400. Ten dollars a pound hard to beat. The guy that sells it comes the the Jackson Gun show maybe once a year though. He will post on craigslist before he comes FYI.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by PhillipM on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:03 am

I bought 8# of 846 from him last year for $90, it works well with my 223 and 75 grain bullets.

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Post by Lt.Dan on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:46 am

844 works well in my AR. Accuracy suffers a little but it goes bang every time.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by dhollis51 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:09 pm

I want to get some 846 for my 223, I sent him a PM on here to see when he is coming back through Jackson, hopefully he will be sometime soon.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by canebreaker on Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:19 pm

David should be headed toward the coast soon.
Set up a group order with him and he'll head your way.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:48 pm

Ive used 844, 842 and 846 from him in .223 and all works.. got a certain lot of 846 that was silly hot tho.

842 is some good stuff too, be careful tho, its pretty fast burning

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by purpledragon on Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:51 pm

I bought 48lbs. of the WC867 for my 7stw and 45-70 duplex loads and I am happy with the results........

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by senilking on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:24 pm

Just curious, is there a good, well defined list of what surplus powders can be substituted, or a load manual for them? Or is this a "Go ask your friendly neighbor" kind of thing?

Ok, of course, I've been looking all day, and find something right after posting this. I found this.
http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=111395

Is there another most people use? And where do you tend to buy it from?

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:18 pm

rule of thumb has been use the equiv powder and start low and work it up..


I use H335 data for WC844
CF223 for WC842
and BLC2 for WC846


ive been using 25gr WC844 with 55gr bullets..
21gr WC842 for 75gr
and i think 24gr WC846 for 75gr..

But of course i startd low at 21gr for 844, 18gr for 842, and 21 for 846..
.5gr increments till i saw swipes on the brass.. backed off .5-1gr and used that..

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by dhollis51 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:49 pm

So for 223 plinking ammo which one should I get? 842, 844, 846, or something else?

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by PhillipM on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:06 pm

dhollis51 wrote:So for 223 plinking ammo which one should I get? 842, 844, 846, or something else?

It goes by bullet weight, go with nonnieselman's guidelines.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by dhollis51 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:12 pm

Aight.

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Post by dhollis51 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:49 pm

Is there anywhere online with data for surplus powder?

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by PhillipM on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:56 pm

dhollis51 wrote:Is there anywhere online with data for surplus powder?

Because it varies from lot to lot, no firm data exists.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:34 am

Text me if you still have my number.. i lost all my contact info when i updated my phone...

i can get you a close starting point.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:35 am

i had some 846 i was loading my hog rounds with, ended up picking up the wrong canister of 846 off the shelf and it blew primers with the same charger.. Very Happy

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Post by captain-03 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:53 pm

nonnieselman wrote:i had some 846 i was loading my hog rounds with, ended up picking up the wrong canister of 846 off the shelf and it blew primers with the same charger.. Very Happy

That ain't good!! Guess you have to work up each powder lot until you find the sweet spots ....

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:23 am

yea so now i mark my canisters and i know when i get close to running out i gotta start working up a load for the new canister.

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by PhillipM on Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:58 am

nonnieselman wrote:yea so now i mark my canisters and i know when i get close to running out i gotta start working up a load for the new canister.

Have you found 846 to be temperature sensitive?

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Re: Military Surplus Powder?

Post by nonnieselman on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:17 am

i dont load it hot.. just till it shoots decent.
majority the time im shooting at night at hogs so the temps have all be close to the same.


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