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Post by jakeg823 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:26 pm

Just posted on HD of Jackson's Facebook page:


This was also posted shortly after:



Say what you want about that shop, but what they do for our servicemembers and vets is HUGE. These folks really get into it and push it all year long. The day after the Trail of Honor ends is when the owner of the Harley shop starts working on the next years. This is his baby so I can assure you the decision was not taken lightly.

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Post by Low Rider on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:04 pm

What a bunch of BS. Way to go Obama..... He never ceases to amaze me. How about cutting the freakin MILLION dollar golf games and actually allocate some money to promote our veterans. What a piss poor excuse for a leader..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets make damn sure Michelle has the money to travel around and tell kids what to eat at school. Anything outside of a pack of sunflower seeds will make you FAT...

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Post by Guest on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:10 pm

It isn't just Obama. I blame every last POS politician in Washington. All of them, republican, democrat and in between have given us nothing but lip service. Not a single one of them gives a rats ass about passing a feasible budget. We have been under 9 continuing resolutions since 2001. They get there's and we get screwed.

I sincerely believe every last sorry POS on Capitol Hill needs to resign.

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Post by Low Rider on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:19 pm

Agreed, I see your avatar and it seems you are in the military. Let me say THANK YOU for your service. I do apologize for what this country is doing to our veterans and active duty. They are all selfish as hell on capitol hill. I wish there was a way to change that issue with the ride. I just don't get it......

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Post by steve2112 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:21 pm

nothing wrote:It isn't just Obama. I blame every last POS politician in Washington. All of them, republican, democrat and in between have given us nothing but lip service. Not a single one of them gives a rats ass about passing a feasible budget. We have been under 9 continuing resolutions since 2001. They get there's and we get screwed.

I sincerely believe every last sorry POS on Capitol Hill needs to resign.

You are 100% correct. Everybody gets so hung up on blaming Obama for everything that they ignore the idiots responsible for this mess. It amazes me that polls show Congress has a 20% approval rating, yet they continue to have a 90% reelection rate. They know they probably won't get voted out of office no matter what they do, so they really don't care about anybody but themselves. Everybody thinks THEIR congresscritter is doing great, and bringing in jobs, and federal projects, but those OTHER idiots are the ones ruining things. The truth is they are all in on it.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/house-and-senate-incumbent-re-election-rates-top-90/

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by sidroski on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:23 am

The Right Wing will suffer - If you look at the cuts made, 90% of discretionary spending cuts are aimed at hurting us. No more fly-by's at NASCAR, not many D's there. Tours at national parks, same. Tours of the WH and other historic sites owned by us, same. Reinactments, Airshows (JXN was cancelled), battlefield tours, on and on. Most people going may not be R's but they sure identify with conservative ideology.
Other than than that, sequestration has not hurt me in the least. The D's biggest horror story of the last few months is just a big yawn.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by TankerHC on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:17 am

I volunteer at the Trail. Planned on getting my name on the list again when I got down to our VFW post Monday. O worked the moving Wall helping people find names.

80% of the Trail isnt even Government funded. Its sponsored. The biggest part of the trail is the Re-Enactors and the moving Wall, IIRC Budweiser sponsors several of the Moving Walls. About the only thing on the trail itself that was active military was the Navy Boat display. The Hughey and the Cobra that give rides are privately owned surplus choppers. The outside tents are all sponsors. And inside most of the tables are Vet Organization sponsored, paid for by Veteran Members, VFW, Legion, VNVMC, and others. Yea you have the VA there and at one time I think retiree services, but most of the tables were Vet organizations. The only Flag rank officers I saw in the last two years were retirees and two years ago our Post sponsored the guest speakers, the Navajo Code Talkers, they were also the guest speakers at our VFW dinner after the first day of the trail.

Yes, you had an M1, a couple of pieces of artillery, some MRAP's, couple of Armored Humvees, the Navy and their Boat. They cant do it with everyone else?

I suspect there is more to it than sequestration.

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Post by jakeg823 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:02 am

I do not know tanker. I know Earl though. This is his baby, he wouldn't cancel it without good reason.

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Post by miker84 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:14 am

jakeg823 wrote:I do not know tanker. I know Earl though. This is his baby, he wouldn't cancel it without good reason.

I know the American Legion guys there too and they were talking about it yesterday. Most of it is volunteers so I'm not sure.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by O.S.O.K. on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:43 am

Yes, heard about this at our last MSSG drill - we have provided security for this event in past years and were looking forward to doing it again this year. Sequester didn't affect us as we're 100% volunteer and recieve very little funding save for our annual training.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by GOVT MULE on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:05 am

I hate it, I enjoyed working it and I enjoyed having my kids there.

The annual Air Show at the Air Guard Base got cancelled as well. The Blue Angels and Thunderbirds both backed out two weeks ago.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by steve2112 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:22 pm

The cuts are about to start hitting some people. The FAA announced today that they are closing 149 airport control towers. A couple in Mississippi that I found interesting were Hawkins Field and the Tupelo airport. There's a link in the article that shows the entire list.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324103504578376730300098680.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by RKpianoman on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:19 pm

But why is a relatively small federal budget cut so greatly affecting largely non-federal events?

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by O.S.O.K. on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:02 pm

Making it hurt - making it hurt... no cuts to welfare...

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by MickeyK on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:29 pm

It's all a freaking political ploy. We are spending MORE than last year. This is just a 2% cut in spending growth.

Then you see this kind of crap.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/03/22/what-sequester-one-night-of-biden-in-paris-585000-n1546590

What an imperial administration and unfortunately 50% of the voters want them so there checks will keep coming.

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Post by triggerman454 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:24 pm

THIS IS A TOTAL Desecration !!!!!!!!

Going to the Trail of Honor and being around other Vets, eases the feelings of all the funerals I went to when I lived in NYC during Nam.
I served on an Aircraft Carrier, however, many of my friends and neighbors bit the bullet and , sometimes, I feel guilty for not having been in battle.

This makes me SAD.

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Post by sidroski on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:09 pm

O.S.O.K. wrote:Making it hurt - making it hurt... no cuts to welfare...
if it is not sequestration, name me one intitlement other than those paid into like SS that have been cut as OSAK said. Goes on long enough, they will cut back some handouts just to let the mostly D mob loot and sack the mostly R businesses. They've got a mob ready to burn it down ala Watts and Rodney King. I'm with the Korean's, me and a gat will protect mine.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by PhillipM on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:52 pm

I went out after dark in Jackson and visited with Earl tonight.

The board of directors for the trail of honor are of the opinion that it is a premier event and anything less than a full show would be a disservice.

However, there will be something! There will be a Governor's ride Sunday morning and then he'll have the showroom cleaned out and have a feast! (BYOB) There will be a MOH recipient that will ride down from Wisconsin and speak Monday.

After they thought about it, several of the volunteers looked on the bright side and realized since they weren't working, they could ride in with the run to the wall riders for the first time Monday.

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Post by jakeg823 on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:20 am

I had a feeling they wouldn't just do nothing, and that it had more to do with the fact that the expectations have been built up so high, but that was just speculation on my part.

Lord knows the man knows how to put together a gathering.

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Post by TankerHC on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:05 pm

PhillipM wrote:I went out after dark in Jackson and visited with Earl tonight.

The board of directors for the trail of honor are of the opinion that it is a premier event and anything less than a full show would be a disservice.

Wasnt just that, couldn't secure the Military equipment but they couldn't secure the permits needed either. He just messaged and let me know. Wonder why they couldnt secure the permits, in just a few years that has become a money generator for Vet orgs and the Jackson area in general. You would think they would hand those permits right over.

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Post by PhillipM on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:30 pm

TankerHC wrote:
PhillipM wrote:I went out after dark in Jackson and visited with Earl tonight.

The board of directors for the trail of honor are of the opinion that it is a premier event and anything less than a full show would be a disservice.

Wasnt just that, couldn't secure the Military equipment but they couldn't secure the permits needed either. He just messaged and let me know. Wonder why they couldnt secure the permits, in just a few years that has become a money generator for Vet orgs and the Jackson area in general. You would think they would hand those permits right over.

He found out he had a 90 day window when he was 50 days out for the heliport. 2014 will be a spectacular year.

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Post by TankerHC on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:38 pm

PhillipM wrote:
TankerHC wrote:
PhillipM wrote:I went out after dark in Jackson and visited with Earl tonight.

The board of directors for the trail of honor are of the opinion that it is a premier event and anything less than a full show would be a disservice.

Wasnt just that, couldn't secure the Military equipment but they couldn't secure the permits needed either. He just messaged and let me know. Wonder why they couldnt secure the permits, in just a few years that has become a money generator for Vet orgs and the Jackson area in general. You would think they would hand those permits right over.

He found out he had a 90 day window when he was 50 days out for the heliport. 2014 will be a spectacular year.

OK, that explains it better. Sequestration is really a small part of it (Not being able to secure the Military vehicles), if you cant get permits, you cant do it. Simple.

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Post by PhillipM on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:53 pm

I forgot one other.

The Navy band that welcomes the riders is not allowed to travel more than 50 miles from Laurel.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by LocalTVguy on Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:46 pm

FYI,

Got an email earlier today that the TOH is officially back on for this year....now what that means...who knows. But I think a lot of people didn't care if the current hardware wasn't there...they just wanted to honor the vets...with whatever they could. More details to come....

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Post by Low Rider on Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:01 pm

Hot dang , Iam in!!!! Praise God , they deserve it...

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Post by O.S.O.K. on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:51 am

Please post a link to information on this!

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TOH Back on

Post by LocalTVguy on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:28 pm

No link as of yet, however here is what I know at the moment.

-Trail set up will be Friday and Sat. Not sure about it being open on Sat.
-On Sunday at 10:00am, Governor Bryant will lead a parade of bikes and privately owned military vehicles to the Ms. Air Guard Base.
-On Monday, greet the RFTW with the vehicles and the funeral procession. Firing demos with small arms and whatever. Some German troops WW2 and American WW2 will do a firefight.


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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by Low Rider on Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:02 pm

Dates ??

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Post by LocalTVguy on Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:05 pm

Sorry...Sat May 18th, Sun May 19th and RFTW riders on Monday May 20th

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by Low Rider on Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:55 pm

Thanks, I will be attending!

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Post by GOVT MULE on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:27 am

Thats good news! Is there gonna be any type of public announcement/advertising?

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by miker84 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:32 am

Here is what I could find....

Here is where we stand. Friday and Saturday will be set up time. We need to be prepared to feed and water ourselves during that period. Earl will start feeding on Sunday. On Sunday at 10:00am, Governor Bryant will lead a parade of bikes and privately owned military vehicles to the Ms. Air Guard Base. Don't know what he has in mind for that. After we return to the TOH site, Earl is throwing an appreciation party for us. On Monday, we will greet the RFTW with the vehicles and the funeral procession. We are preparing to do firing demos with small arms and whatever we have. We are bringing in some German troops to do a firefight.
This idea came from, and will be executed by, reenactors. This is not for Earl, me or anyone except for the Vets who put their boots on the ground, their butts on the water and their lives on the line. It is also to send a message to the people who think that the "BIG SHOW" is the helos, jumpers and boats. IT IS THE TRAIL and YOU who stand your posts all day for 3 days.
If you can join us, please let me know ASAP. If you have made other commitments for Sat. and Sun.
already, you can join us Monday morning. Please make every effort to join us. Let's show them what we can do.
I apologize for this happening. I am doing all that I can to salvage TOH.
Lucky

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Post by PhillipM on Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:32 pm

miker84 wrote:Here is what I could find....

On Sunday at 10:00am, Governor Bryant will lead a parade of bikes and privately owned military vehicles to the Ms. Air Guard Base. Don't know what he has in mind for that. ...
Lucky

They will meet and honor wounded warriors at the airport.

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Post by LocalTVguy on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:00 pm

From what I am hearing today, the TOH will not be open to the public. This will only be for the RFTW riders on Monday, and the Gov's ride on Sunday.

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Post by O.S.O.K. on Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:24 pm

Ah, so they probably won't need security then... that's what we contribute.

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Re: Trail of Honor 2013 cancelled

Post by TankerHC on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:30 am

Yea, just got a message at 5 this morning from them to call, its not back on.

"Please contact Earl at the Shop he can give you details. 601-372-5770. The Trail is NOT back on there will be some things going on but please call for more details. Thanks!"


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