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Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by fastarrow on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:31 am

I have a chance to go to GUNSMITHING SCHOOL. And if I can come up with the identity of this weapon. My tuition will be paid. I don't have the ability to put picture on here. But can E-Mail picture to someone willing to help. Mainly need to know the name of the possible conversion kit upper. Looks like a 9mm. With possibly a top feeding magazine that may swing out to the side when ready to fire.
If you could help with identity. It would be greatly appreciated!

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Post by dhollis51 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:33 am

email it to me and I will post it

dhollis@offisource.com

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by fastarrow on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:39 am

E-Mail sent. Thanks!

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Post by dhollis51 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:44 am

scared me to death getting an email from campus police. brought back too many memories


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Post by fastarrow on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:57 am

It was an FBI Nation wide request. Thanks dhollis!

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by wesm on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:01 am

I am not an AR guy but it looks to me like an AR 57. I have noticed them on the Classic Arms website. I could be wrong but check out http://www.57center.com for info. That is what the picture looks like to me.

Best of luck.

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Post by captain-03 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:14 am

Anyone got a way to enlarge that target ... could be a 5.7x25? I think it too big for 9mm

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Post by fastarrow on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:29 am

I looked up the AR-57. And when I showed it to this perticular person. All he could say was PICK A SCHOOL THAT WON'T KEEP ME FROM RETIRING!!!

So I guess i'm going to gunsmithing school! Thanks for ya'lls help! thanks

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Post by fastarrow on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:36 am

captain-03 wrote:Anyone got a way to enlarge that target ... could be a 5.7x25? I think it too big for 9mm


All i could think of was a pistol cartridge with that case head size for a conversion.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by Stryker6 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:09 pm

It's a PWA AR57 upper on a looks to be a Bushmaster lower with a Truglo 2x sight. It shoots 5.7x28mm ammo same a the PS90 & FN Five-seven.

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Post by Rbelote on Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:05 pm

What stryker said. 100 percent correct. stryker knows his black rifles

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Post by righttoown on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:01 am

First time I have ever seen one of those.

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Post by Rbelote on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:09 am

The uppers will fit on any 223 lower. THey are fed from the top...hence the mag on top of the forearms, and the brass ejects out of the bottom. THey are about 750-780.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by fastarrow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:03 am

Thanks again for the info! My Grandfather loves to do research on interesting items. And I have been talking about going to Gunsmithing school since I was 10. And he practicly raised me. So he said if I still was interested. He would foot the bill if I would research this weapon and come up with an answer to what it was. And he always said "When researching something. Always start by asking people that know about that kind of item. Then take the info gathered. And run with it." And I knew where to go and who to ask. Smile He said "I can't believe you identified it so fast. Wish I had INTERNET years ago." So thanks again!

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by GunOneDown on Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:17 am

somebody one here has an upper i'm pretty sure. Can't remember who though. He had upper with 2 mags for sale some time back. will haveto look around.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by captain-03 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:36 am

Congratulations -- where you gonna go to school?

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by fastarrow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:51 am

I don't know yet. I work full time at a college on the coast. And have a family to support. And i'm mostly interested in building custom rifles. But I know you got to learn the basics first. I have access to CNC machines & LATHES here at the college. And i'm enrolling in the machinist courses this summer. I got to find out what I can and can't work on at the campus. as far as weapon parts go. Don't need to get into any legal problems. no There is a school in arizona that is 2 weeks long that goes over basic trouble shooting and repair, case harding, bluing and stock bedding. I know you don't become a gunsmith in 2 weeks but it will give me a hands on start in the right direction. And I can work my vacations around class dates. So I can go 3 times a year. And every class is more advanced.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by swede62 on Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:51 pm

I think Del-Ton is making the uppers you show. We have some at Hunters Haven in Tupelo if anyone up that way wants to look at one. Same magazine as the P90. It's 50 rounder too. It doesn't slide out the side it lifts off the top.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by Shooter on Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:47 pm

fastarrow wrote:I don't know yet. I work full time at a college on the coast. And have a family to support. And i'm mostly interested in building custom rifles. But I know you got to learn the basics first. I have access to CNC machines & LATHES here at the college. And i'm enrolling in the machinist courses this summer. I got to find out what I can and can't work on at the campus. as far as weapon parts go. Don't need to get into any legal problems. no There is a school in arizona that is 2 weeks long that goes over basic trouble shooting and repair, case harding, bluing and stock bedding. I know you don't become a gunsmith in 2 weeks but it will give me a hands on start in the right direction. And I can work my vacations around class dates. So I can go 3 times a year. And every class is more advanced.


Excellent start and you can do it right at home. Learn the metal working basics and they can be applied to anything. Precision work is what comes with diligence and practice. After you get the basics, you will have a skill that can support you while you go to school for the firearms specifics.

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Re: Need help with weapon I.D.

Post by fastarrow on Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:30 am

Very true!

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