Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

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Post by TheGreatGonzo on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 pm

My work gun recently changed from a traditional DA/SA Sig to a DAK Sig. No biggie. I would have preferred to stay with the DA/SA, but I'm fine with the DAK. That being said, I have always believed that, when it comes to carry guns, you should stick with one trigger/action system. Under pressure, you don't draw and then forget to engage/disengage a safety. Or, to forget to decock the pistol before you reholster it while your adrenalin is pumping. That is the main reason I have never carried a 1911 off-duty, although I would love to. I don't regularly train to swipe the safety off and forgetting to do so might cost me my life.

Well, I train with my work gun a LOT. For many years, I was accustomed to "decocking" the pistol before I put it back in the holster. When I switched to the DAK, my thumb still made the motion out of habit, which is no big deal. No harm done by the extra motion. However, I'm slowly starting to "unlearn" that habit. Because of that, I made the decision to get rid of all of my DA/SA guns and go strictly to pistols with a DAK or DAO trigger system. For the most part, that has been pretty painless and a couple of forum members have gained from my decision. lol

However, I have come to a realization that breaks my heart. Two of my mostess very favoritest Sig pistols are not manufactured by Sig in a DAK or DAO version!!! That means my beloved P245 and P228 will have to be replaced by something else! crying

How important do you guys think it is to stick with a single handgun system for carry guns? Do you switch back and forth? Every gun in my safe is a potential carry gun. I like to think that if I needed to, I could pull any one at random, strap it on, and rely on it for carry. Since I train, by far, the most (and under the most pressure) with my duty pistol, I really feel that I need to keep everything in the same action type. Thoughts?
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PS - I consider all of my wheelguns to fall under my DAO requirement since I don't have any single action revolvers and I can't forget to "decock" one of them before I holster.

PPS- Did I mention how much I will miss my P228 and P245? pull hair

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by profiler999 on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:30 pm

I stumbled across a Sig p239. I sorta like the da/sa trigger and it doesn't bother me at all to go from DAO to the DA/SA trigger. However, no BG's are looking for me either as I'm usually not in harms way behind this stinking computer.

Now, if an OPPORTUNITY presented itself to look at other options, I would love to investigate them. thumbs up

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by bigsig on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:38 pm

Gonz, how often do you wake up and say"which gun am I gonna carry for work today"? Personal carry is a different matter though. I my self carry 3 different weapons according to dress and weather.(sig P220 1st gen, Glock 23C, and a Taurus snub .38+P) I shoot Glock in USPSA so I tend to carry Glock more often, however a lot of times I dress light so I carry the .38 IWB. I guess I may end up with an accident someday. Maybe I should invest in a few of your "cull" Sigs and switch to a Sig in comp. also. Sigs are fine weapons just a little pricey to go "all Sig". In your case you train for work so I would think that off duty should be the same type if not the same gun.

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by TheGreatGonzo on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:43 pm

bigsig wrote:Gonz, how often do you wake up and say"which gun am I gonna carry for work today"?


Never. Very Happy Well, not really, anyway. My choices for work are limted to my DAK Sig (the full size or the compact, depending on what I'm doing) with a j-frame revolver as back-up. So, not much variety there.

bigsig wrote: In your case you train for work so I would think that off duty should be the same type if not the same gun.


Yep, I feel the same way. And it is not that I don't like the DAK trigger...I do. I just wish that Sig made the P245 and P228 with the DAK trigger, because I really, really hate to get rid of them. But, on the other hand, I don't believe in keeping guns in the safe that I don't ever plan on carrying (with the exception of some family heirlooms, etc).

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Post by bigsig on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:44 pm

Pm me about package deal on the Sigs, when you decide to sell.

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Post by GunOneDown on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:50 pm

I think it is a good thing to carry or use the same. I carry Glock and shoot it in Comp as well. Only other I carry is the NAA Mini, but I don't really consider it as a primary carry piece eventhough it is sometimes. Carry what you know and are very familiar with is my opinion.

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by TheGreatGonzo on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:50 pm

bigsig wrote:Pm me about package deal on the Sigs, when you decide to sell.


You guys are vultures!!! lol

One of the other board members is already getting my P245 (at a pretty darned good price, I might add! LOL! ). But I'll defintely keep you mind when I decide what to do with my beloved P228. Sigh....

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Post by GunOneDown on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:55 pm

OT2 ,but good pieces don't come around to often, so get them while you can is my theory. Why not sell to somebody who will appreciate it as much as you did or have or still do.
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Post by jbpmidas on Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:08 pm

Can the Sig be converted?

I have been thinking about this same topic. I have a 1911 that I enjoy shooting and lives by the bed, but my carry is a Glock 30. I have been wondering if I should go back to a 1911 for carry. A lightweight Kimber, or similar, wouldn't be bad.

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by TheGreatGonzo on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:50 am

jbpmidas wrote:Can the Sig be converted?


Yep, it appears the P228 can!! thumbs up I cannot be converted to DAK (at least, not cheaply), but it can be converted to a traditional DAO rather easily. I should have the parts in hand to do so in a week or so! bouncing smile

Unforunately, the same was not true for my P245. I will miss it. I have about decided to send my S&W Performance Center Shorty .45 packing as well. A truly stellar carry gun in .45ACP. But the reality is, I have been carrying my Sig P220 Carry SAS DAK instead of my Shorty .45 anyway.
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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by Joe S. on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:48 pm

Unless you cock a da/sa pistol when you draw I don't see the harm in keeping one for carry.

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Post by msredneck on Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:15 pm

I don't mix action types. I don't want to have to "remember" anything when I'm carrying

I shoot Glock USPSA and carry Glock...also carry a NAA pug as a backup. I also carry DAO revolvers in a front pocket.

No safety levers or decocking anything for me.

Only time the SA revolvers or 1911's come out is when its "play time"

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Post by Rbelote on Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:47 pm

msredneck wrote:I don't mix action types. I don't want to have to "remember" anything when I'm carrying

I shoot Glock USPSA and carry Glock...also carry a NAA pug as a backup. I also carry DAO revolvers in a front pocket.

No safety levers or decocking anything for me.

Only time the SA revolvers or 1911's come out is when its "play time"


The pug be SA.

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Post by msredneck on Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:50 pm

Yep...guess so...still no safety though....its backup to the backup

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Post by swede62 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:07 am

I see no reason to get rid of them either. Your first shot will still be double action as in the DAK trigger. I just see you as being ahead of the curve. I carry Glocks mainly because the triggers are the same on all of them, but I have other pistols that I use and shoot frequently to stay familiar with them. As long as you shoot them to stay familiar with them I see no need to let your old friends go.

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by TheGreatGonzo on Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:48 am

Thanks for the input guys. I have made the decision to go with 100% DAK/DAO type handguns (to include revolvers, of course) and plan to stick with it.

The biggest problem I have run into is just trying to find a Sig 9mm in DAK in MS! I have checked gunshops from the Coast to Grenda and from Vicksburg to Meridian! No joy. Same for a Kahr K9.

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Re: Keeping a common action-type for carry guns....

Post by SilentHitz on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:12 am

[quote]The biggest problem I have run into is just trying to find a Sig 9mm in DAK in MS! Zapp MrClean a PM ( he's my brother and dealer), not sure if the distributors he uses carry them...but it never hurts to ask.

Sorry I screwed the quote up LOL, new here and quote function must be different than on TFL

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