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CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:31 pm

Ok, cz guys, I want to put medium height rings on my american but the bolt hits the bell on the scope. Leupold tech support says their 3-9x33 efr will work with medium height rings on the American. Anyone have experience with this scope/ring combination. Any and all advice appreciated.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Dukhntn on Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:44 pm

Nothing will work. Your only hope is to sell your 452 American to me and forget the whole scope/ring fiasco ever happened...


Not sure about that particular scope, but I used BKL rings on both of my Americans.
http://www.bkltech.com/30mm-Scope-Mounts-s/58.htm

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:51 pm

[quote="Dukhntn"]Nothing will work.  Your only hope is to sell your 452 American to me and forget the whole scope/ring fiasco ever happened

Haha! They are great little guns aren't they? Heard a lot about bkl's. Are they a medium height ring?

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Dukhntn on Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:00 pm

1" tube? You'd need the 200 series. They come in 2 different heights.

http://www.bkltech.com/1inch-Scope-Rings-and-Mounts-for-3-8-and-11mm-Dovetail-s/57.htm

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by vblackwell on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:06 am

I just mounted a Weaver T36 X 40mm scope with a set of Burris Signature Zee rings on my 452 Trainer. I used the high mounts to get clearance over the rear sight. My bolt handle is close to hitting the scope but it does not touch. If you use this set of rings, you will also have to get a dovetail to weaver adaptor. I already had my rings so that why I went with this. It works great though.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:44 am

@vblackwell, does the height of the rings not mess up your zero at various ranges for hunting purposes? I hear high rings cause big fluctuations in point of impact over shorter distances than do lower rings.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by O.S.O.K. on Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:38 am

My Cz 457 came with high mounts... they seem to be made for a higher mount... It works perfectly and my eye lines up with the scope - you might want to check this with the medium rings - the stock might be set up for the higher mount.

The issue with point of impact with the higher mount is not noticeable on my rifle.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:37 pm

What caliber is the 457? Guess I've not seen that one. I have the 452 varmint with thumb hole stock. It has a rail and "higher" style mounts (already on it when I bought it) ad works perfectly though the varmint has a high comb due to the thumb hole. Not sure about height on standard stock since I just found the American and bought it. Problem came in when trying to put the 40mm scope on it with rings that came with it (medium height) and the bolt hitting the scope. Ring height seems right though just by planting your cheek on the stock and looking through the rings. Leupold said the 33mm efr has a slim eye objective and is small enough for bolt clearance. Just wondered about anyone's real world experience before I dropped the $ for the efr.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by vblackwell on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:58 pm

Deltadawg wrote:@vblackwell, does the height of the rings not mess up your zero at various ranges for hunting purposes?
I'm not sure if it does. I wouldn't think it would though. For hunting, Id probably set the scope at half the distance I thought that I would ever shoot and then adjust my shots to that. I shoot this gun at paper from 25 yards out to 200 yards and I always adjust the elevation to do that.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by O.S.O.K. on Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:57 am

Deltadawg wrote:What caliber is the 457?  Guess I've not seen that one. I have the 452 varmint with thumb hole stock. It has a rail and "higher" style mounts (already on it when I bought it) ad works perfectly though the varmint has a high comb due to the thumb hole. Not sure about height on standard stock since I just found the American and bought it. Problem came in when trying to put the 40mm scope on it with rings that came with it (medium height) and the bolt hitting the scope. Ring height seems right though just by planting your cheek on the stock and looking through the rings. Leupold said the 33mm efr has a slim eye objective and is small enough for bolt clearance. Just wondered about anyone's real world experience before I dropped the $ for the efr.
Mine is a Euro style carbine - 7.62x39.  5 round detachable mag. Has a set trigger - push forward to set or use without by pulling rearward as normal. This is a great gun for a young deer hunter - very light and recoil is negligible. I like handloads with 150 grain soft points going around 2100 fps.


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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:09 pm

Nice gun!

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by deepsouth on Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:44 pm

Y'all are freaking killing me with this 452 chatter. I sold mine to a forum member recently. crying 

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Dukhntn on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:33 pm

deepsouth wrote:Y'all are freaking killing me with this 452 chatter. I sold mine to a forum member recently. crying 
I shot it a couple of weeks ago. You weren't kidding about that trigger being light...

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by deepsouth on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:47 pm

Dukhntn wrote:
deepsouth wrote:Y'all are freaking killing me with this 452 chatter. I sold mine to a forum member recently. crying 
I shot it a couple of weeks ago.  You weren't kidding about that trigger being light...
Told ya, man. I've never felt a trigger that light on anything.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by vblackwell on Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:19 am

deepsouth wrote:
Dukhntn wrote:
deepsouth wrote:Y'all are freaking killing me with this 452 chatter. I sold mine to a forum member recently. crying 
I shot it a couple of weeks ago.  You weren't kidding about that trigger being light...
Told ya, man. I've never felt a trigger that light on anything.
I did a trigger job and floated the barrel on my 452 Trainer right after I bought it. The trigger pull is now about 2 or 3 ounces. I also put a .011 shim in it to take the creep out. Its turning out to be a sweet benchrest rifle. I'm going to bed the stock soon. It will shoot about 1" MOA at 100 now if you do your part.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by O.S.O.K. on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:33 am

Deltadawg wrote:Nice gun!
Thanks - everybody that's shot it loves it.

Since it's a bolt gun, it's especially well suited for shooting cast boolit loads and you can push them almost as fast as the jacketed bullets of the same weight - 150's to 2000 fps - prob 2100 with a good hard alloy.

I bought this as a companion to my AK's - a bolt gun to shoot the same caliber and since I have a good lot of ammo Smile

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Deltadawg on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:56 pm

Tim Thompson at Shelby did the trigger job on my 452 varmint. Got it set at 2 lbs. hunting and it breaks like glass now. Probably will have it set just over 1 lb for bench shooting now that I have the American.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by tha1000 on Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:07 pm

I have high talley rings and with a Nikon p-22 scope on my 452 and the bolt handle barely clears bell.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by Redvalic on Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:40 pm

My CZ 527 in 7.62x39 put 2 deer in the freezer this week. They are fantastic guns. I also purchased the 455 22LR and its not as solid as the 452(Composite trigger guard and a few other tweeks) Its a squirrel slayer.

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Re: CZ 452 American scope mount question

Post by covinth on Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:25 pm

I know someone does an aftermarket bolt-handle for the CZ 452/453/455 & 457 which solves the scope clearance problem you have; I am sorry that I cannot think of who does them.

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