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Post by Caleb C on Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:56 pm

righttoown wrote:I see your age says your 18. You have to be 21 to buy a handgun. Sad


That's not completely true. You have to be 21 to by a handgun from a licensed dealer. He can purchase a handgun from a private seller if he can locate one who is willing to assume the risk of selling to an underage person. I don't think there's any law in MS against that. It's also perfectly legal for him to keep said handgun in his vehicle. The law controls sales not possession.

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Post by righttoown on Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:45 pm

Caleb C wrote:
righttoown wrote:I see your age says your 18. You have to be 21 to buy a handgun. Sad


That's not completely true. You have to be 21 to by a handgun from a licensed dealer. He can purchase a handgun from a private seller if he can locate one who is willing to assume the risk of selling to an underage person. I don't think there's any law in MS against that. It's also perfectly legal for him to keep said handgun in his vehicle. The law controls sales not possession.


Never said there was any law against him having a handgun in his vechicle. If someone wants to break the law and sell him one thats their deal. I would never do it. You can bet if someone did sell him one and he ever used it for self defense a lawyer would be looking for the person that the gun was registered to. Thats why when I sell anything at a gun show I ask to see your driver license to make sure of your age and that you live in MS. 2 cents

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Post by bensand26 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:28 pm

righttoown wrote:
Caleb C wrote:
righttoown wrote:I see your age says your 18. You have to be 21 to buy a handgun. Sad


That's not completely true. You have to be 21 to by a handgun from a licensed dealer. He can purchase a handgun from a private seller if he can locate one who is willing to assume the risk of selling to an underage person. I don't think there's any law in MS against that. It's also perfectly legal for him to keep said handgun in his vehicle. The law controls sales not possession.


Never said there was any law against him having a handgun in his vechicle. If someone wants to break the law and sell him one thats their deal. I would never do it. You can bet if someone did sell him one and he ever used it for self defense a lawyer would be looking for the person that the gun was registered to. Thats why when I sell anything at a gun show I ask to see your driver license to make sure of your age and that you live in MS. 2 cents


i know you may not believe me.. and thats ok.. but i can legally buy one from a private seller. just not a FFL dealer. it is not illegal for me to own one. just illegal for an FFL dealer to sell me one. it keeps crack dealers from legally getting them. but it is not illegal for me to have/possess/own/keep one as long as it doesnt come from an FFL dealer.

I know it doesnt make sense...but i have checked with a local LEO, a state LEO(GAME WARDEN), and a lawyer. They all have agreed. it is odd, but it is the law.

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Post by bensand26 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:50 pm

ATF Site:
B. UNLICENSED PERSONS
(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohib- ited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resi- dent of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohib- ited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a li- censed collector.
[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
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SOURCE 2: MISSISSIPPI POSSESSION LAW

97-37-14. Possession of handgun by min- or; act of delinquency; exceptions
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this sec- tion, it is an act of delinquency for any person who has not attained the age of eighteen (18) years knowingly to have any handgun in such person's possession.
(2) This section shall not apply to: (a) Any person who is: (i) In attendance at a hunter's safety course or
a firearms safety course; or (ii) Engaging in practice in the use of a fire-
arm or target shooting at an established range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdic-
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tion in which such range is located or any other area where the discharge of a firearm is not pro- hibited; or
(iii) Engaging in an organized competition in- volving the use of a firearm, or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group under 501(c)(3) as determined by the fed- eral internal revenue service which uses fire- arms as a part of such performance; or
(iv) Hunting or trapping pursuant to a valid li- cense issued to such person by the Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks or as otherwise allowed by law; or
(v) Traveling with any handgun in such per- son's possession being unloaded to or from any activity described in subparagraph (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) of this paragraph (a) and paragraph (b).
(b) Any person under the age of eighteen (18) years who is on real property under the control of an adult and who has the permission of such adult to possess a handgun.
(3) This section shall not apply to any person who uses a handgun or other firearm to lawfully defend himself from imminent danger at his home or place of domicile and any such person shall not be held criminally liable for such use of a handgun or other firearm.
(4) For the purposes of this section, "hand- gun" means a pistol, revolver or other firearm of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be dis- charged, the length of the barrel of which, not in- cluding any revolving, detachable or magazine breech, is less than sixteen (16) inches.

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Post by righttoown on Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:48 pm

You maybe right but I still say if anything happened a lawyer would pick the law apart. I sure you know you have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo, but I guess you can get someone to buy it for you. Please understand I have no problem with someone 18 owning a handgun. Just trying to keep someone from getting in trouble with the law.

Most federal laws regulating firearms are included in Title 18 of the U.S. Code -- the Gun Control Act (GCA, 1968) as amended by various subsequent laws, including the Firearms Owners` Protection Act (1986), the Youth Handgun Safety Act (1994), the Gun-Free School Zones Act (1996) and other laws. Details on federal firearm laws are available from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. (www.atf.treas.gov)

Federal law imposes the following restrictions aimed at younger persons:

A person must be 21 years of age to purchase a handgun or handgun ammunition, and 18 years of age to buy a rifle or shotgun or ammunition, from a retail firearm dealer. (GCA, 1968)

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Post by Joe S. on Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:55 pm

And wqalmart won't sell my 18yo step son 22 ammo because there are 22 handguns. Silly... Like the crack dealers are gonna say, o snap, guess I can't own a weapon cause I'm only 18. Have to wait a few more years. Hope I don't get capped. Please...

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Post by bensand26 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:22 pm

Joe S. wrote:And wqalmart won't sell my 18yo step son 22 ammo because there are 22 handguns. Silly... Like the crack dealers are gonna say, o snap, guess I can't own a weapon cause I'm only 18. Have to wait a few more years. Hope I don't get capped. Please...


correction. i am 18 years old and i buy 22 ammo weekly at walmart. i have bought 22 ammo at walmarts all over the state.. blame the walmart worker, not the law.

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Post by bensand26 on Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:24 pm

nonetheless, what gun should i get. the law is my business and no one but mine's...

The conversation is about what gun i would get given the previously mentioned specifications.

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Post by bubbat on Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:25 am

Joe S. wrote:And wqalmart won't sell my 18yo step son 22 ammo because there are 22 handguns. Silly... Like the crack dealers are gonna say, o snap, guess I can't own a weapon cause I'm only 18. Have to wait a few more years. Hope I don't get capped. Please...


you need to show that Walmart worker this from Federal Firearms Regulations.

"Ammunition interchangeable between rifles and handguns (such as .22 caliber rimfire) may be sold to an individual 18 years of age, but less than 21, if the licensee is satisfied that the ammunition is being acquired for use in a rifle."

I had one worker at the Clinton Walmart ask me when I was buying .22 ammo if it was for a rifle or pistol, I told her it was none of their business what it was for,I was way over 21.

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Post by righttoown on Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:05 am

Since you have no trouble buying .22 ammo maybe you can find a used one like this.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_494/products_id/31347

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Post by Joe S. on Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:07 pm

Thanks bubba

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Post by bensand26 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:14 pm

righttoown wrote:Since you have no trouble buying .22 ammo maybe you can find a used one like this.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_494/products_id/31347


thanks right to own. sorry if i got a little harsh.
no hard feelings.

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Post by righttoown on Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:11 pm

bensand26 wrote:
righttoown wrote:Since you have no trouble buying .22 ammo maybe you can find a used one like this.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_494/products_id/31347


thanks right to own. sorry if i got a little harsh.
no hard feelings.


No hard feelings, just good discussion, did'nt mean to get off topic. lol

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Post by bensand26 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:21 pm

it happens. what is a discussion for if you cant get off topic. haha.
i may just wait though. at best ill have 5 months to have the pistol before it has to be stowed away for a while. Mississippi State or any other university is not a fan of guns on campus.. that is a entirely different debate though... but law says ill go to jail. personally i enjoy freedom. so the money spent on the gun to have it sit there, probably isnt worth it.

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Post by swede62 on Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:45 am

bensand26 wrote:it happens. what is a discussion for if you cant get off topic. haha.
i may just wait though. at best ill have 5 months to have the pistol before it has to be stowed away for a while. Mississippi State or any other university is not a fan of guns on campus.. that is a entirely different debate though... but law says ill go to jail. personally i enjoy freedom. so the money spent on the gun to have it sit there, probably isnt worth it.

You will have weekends to shoot. You have to take a break now and then, and I find shooting to be good therapy. At least for me it is!

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