Who is my CLEO?

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Who is my CLEO?

Post by Subsonix on Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:35 pm

I live in the city, so I have the police, the sherrif, and the highway patrol (where I got my FP).

Which one do I need to get sign-off from for an NFA item?

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Stryker6 on Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:04 pm

In City limits it would be the Chief of Police, in the County it would be the Sheriff.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Subsonix on Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:42 pm

I thought so. Thanks.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Dock Rocker on Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:11 pm

Don't worry about It and make a trust. Pm me and I can give u some details.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Free_Stater on Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:22 pm

Subsonix, let me know how that goes. I was a resident of your fine city for many years, but I left and moved to the county in 2001. I would find out the chief of police's outlook on such things before I spent any money. I don't know where he stands on such things, but I have a funny feeling he's not all warm and fuzzy towards gun owners. The Forrest County sheriff, however, is one of the good guys.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Subsonix on Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:42 am

@DR

I haven't decided on which route to take yet. My wife is in the legal field and can handle a trust for me in her sleep, so no problem there. I am leaning twards the trust route since I figure this first NFA item won't be my last. I'm just gathering info at the moment.

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Sure will, IF I go that route. I'm not sure about Chief Bolton, never met the guy. And, yes, Billy Mcgee is a good guy.

So, since I live in the city, do you think the BATFE will reject my application if I use a sign-off from the Sheriff?

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Free_Stater on Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:53 am

You'd best ask someone who knows, as I don't. Given my druthers, I'd rather do everything through the county, but you may not have that option. Best to ask a dealer that question.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Dock Rocker on Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:42 pm

Subsonix wrote:@DR

I haven't decided on which route to take yet. My wife is in the legal field and can handle a trust for me in her sleep, so no problem there. I am leaning twards the trust route since I figure this first NFA item won't be my last. I'm just gathering info at the moment.

@F_S

Sure will, IF I go that route. I'm not sure about Chief Bolton, never met the guy. And, yes, Billy Mcgee is a good guy.

So, since I live in the city, do you think the BATFE will reject my application if I use a sign-off from the Sheriff?


Sorry I was short in my earlier post but I was on my iphone and typing is tough. The reason I went with the trust is my CLEO in Hinds county would not sign off. Also the added benefit of allowing other trusties to have the property without me around. It is easier to pass to your kids if you have any. Anything owned in your name at the time of your death can be a real problem to deal with. With the trust that is all taken care of.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Subsonix on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:20 pm

Dock Rocker wrote:
Also the added benefit of allowing other trusties to have the property without me around.


So if I lend a SBR with a copy of the paperwork to my brother and he goes to the range without me, we are in violation of the law? That seems rather stupid. It's like buying a car and not being able to loan it to a friend because it is registered in your name. A car can be just as deadly as a gun, if not more so. Then again, all of this hoop jumping is stupid.

Is this true? Can I not let someone borrow a SRB or suppressor?

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Dock Rocker on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:28 pm

You cannot loan any NFA item. As long as you are around (care, custody, control) other people can use they NFA items. If they are not the registered owner of the item and they are found with it its 10 years in jail. The ATF dosent play.

Since the trust ownes the items any of the trustees of that trust can possess the items. I am the grantor of the trust and my brother is a trustee. Both of us are legally able to use the items without the other around. The trust offers flexability that you cannot get owning it personally. I have to keep a copy of the trust and a copy of the form 4 with the NFA items all the time.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Subsonix on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:41 pm

Great info, DR. Thanks!

Now that I know that, I most certainly will be using a trust.

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Free_Stater on Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:12 pm

Dock, you did your research and dealt with what could become a huge problem in the future. I like that idea. I suppose one can set up a trust after the fact of purchase? Or do they keep you from doing that?

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Re: Who is my CLEO?

Post by Dock Rocker on Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:09 pm

Free_Stater wrote:Dock, you did your research and dealt with what could become a huge problem in the future. I like that idea. I suppose one can set up a trust after the fact of purchase? Or do they keep you from doing that?


Once you have the trust in place it can own as many NFA items as you want. You have a schedule attached to the trust that shows what all the trust owns. If you own a NFA item and want to put it into the trust you will have to pay the $200 to transfer the ownership from you personally to the trust. So its a problem to do something after the fact.

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