Milsurp Picture of the Day

I'm probably wrong but is it a French Lebel model 1892?

Good guess - but not correct. However, the French Berthier Lebel 1907-15 rifles was in fact issued to some U.S. troops. Some possibly even Remington made. The 145th Division who we loaned to the French 4th Army. Black troops in US uniforms with White US officers. The French had no problem with blacks and welcomed them. The US loaned troops were issued French weapons, including the Lebel. The French Lebel bayonet could not be carried on the US web belt so French gear of leather rather than web was worn.

Try again?

here is my guess-- M91 Mosin Nagant?

CORRECT!!

In 1916, the US had contracts with Russia for up to 1,500,000 Mosin-Nagant 91 rifles from Remington and 1,800,000 rifles from New England Westinghouse. In total there were only 769,520 New England Westinghouse rifles built and 750,000 Remington rifles built. Of the 750,000 rifles manufactured by Remington, only 469,951 had been delivered to Russia by February 1917. In March of 1917, Nicholas II of Russia was forced to abdicate and the Provisional Kerensky Government took power. Remington and Westinghouse continued to build rifles during this time. Remington alone produced as many as 4000 rifles per day during November of 1917.

When Bolsheviks took power the US contracts were cancelled because of the US did not want to furnish weapons to the Bolsheviks. Remington and Westinghouse faced a terrible economic loss. To save Remington and Westinghouse from bankruptcy, the US government purchased most of the remaining, completed rifles at approximately $32 each.

Most were used for military training purposes and given a temporary US designation - U.S. Magazine Rifle calibre 7.62mm Model 1916. The US made use of the American made M91s to train new Army recruits. Both the Colorado and the Alaska National Guard, had to turn in their US rifles and were issued the Mosins.

Many U.S. made Mosin Nagant rifles were actually issued to and used to arm the A.E.F. sailors, including USMC and an Army contingents which were dispatched to Murmansk, Archangel and Vladivostok during the Red/White Russian Civil War. U.S. made Mosin Nagant rifles were also issued to British and French troops.

Later most Mosin Nagant rifles owned by the US were given to the NRA after WWI ended. Most were brand new when sold off by the NRA at $3.90 + $1.58 postage. The NRA was sold out of U.S. Mosins by 1929.

NOW WE KNOW!!

A couple pictues of US Saliors armed with the 91:

The Red Army had more than 2000 women snipers in uniform during WWII --

Capt'n.... That is great info on the American 91s. THANKS ! ! !

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captain-03 wrote:CORRECT!!

In 1916, the US had contracts with Russia for up to 1,500,000 Mosin-Nagant 91 rifles from Remington and 1,800,000 rifles from New England Westinghouse. In total there were only 769,520 New England Westinghouse rifles built and 750,000 Remington rifles built. Of the 750,000 rifles manufactured by Remington, only 469,951 had been delivered to Russia by February 1917. In March of 1917, Nicholas II of Russia was forced to abdicate and the Provisional Kerensky Government took power. Remington and Westinghouse continued to build rifles during this time. Remington alone produced as many as 4000 rifles per day during November of 1917.

When Bolsheviks took power the US contracts were cancelled because of the US did not want to furnish weapons to the Bolsheviks. Remington and Westinghouse faced a terrible economic loss. To save Remington and Westinghouse from bankruptcy, the US government purchased most of the remaining, completed rifles at approximately $32 each.

Most were used for military training purposes and given a temporary US designation - U.S. Magazine Rifle calibre 7.62mm Model 1916. The US made use of the American made M91s to train new Army recruits. Both the Colorado and the Alaska National Guard, had to turn in their US rifles and were issued the Mosins.

Many U.S. made Mosin Nagant rifles were actually issued to and used to arm the A.E.F. sailors, including USMC and an Army contingents which were dispatched to Murmansk, Archangel and Vladivostok during the Red/White Russian Civil War. U.S. made Mosin Nagant rifles were also issued to British and French troops.

Later most Mosin Nagant rifles owned by the US were given to the NRA after WWI ended. Most were brand new when sold off by the NRA at $3.90 + $1.58 postage. The NRA was sold out of U.S. Mosins by 1929.

NOW WE KNOW!!

A couple pictues of US Saliors armed with the 91:

That first US sailor in the pic with the Mosin looks just like a a guy I know here in Brookhaven who was a Navy Seabee in Vietnam. I'm gonna ask him if maybe his grand-dad was in the Navy during WWI.

I mean, he's a dead ringer.

Brutus: These sailors were from the USS Olympia. They were the first Americans to sheed blood in the Russian Revolution. Sailors from the USS Olympia, who formed a part of a landing force, actually commandeered a train to pursue a trainload of fleeing red troops. They returned from the line along the railroad to Vologda, where they had been fighting Bolsheviks. The party got back to its starting point only after picking its way through swamps and forests. They were compelled to abandoned everything but their rifles.

The Olympia is still around and currently on display in Philadelphia, PA. One of the last of the pre-dreadnaught warships afloat.

What weapon is this?

M1941 johnson machine gun.

i think i know this one also.... is it a portable pig cooker??? that looks like a crappy way to go. Think they are actually know as M2-2

A new one! What is it?? Who made them and when??