East St. Louis laying off 1/3 of their police officers- Could be us?

 

Ha! Good enough for that anti-gun bunch of fools! I don't feel a bit sorry for them.

Leopardcurdog, I agree with you! Hey I see we are in the same county, Lamar! My son Muddawg95yj is a class III firearms dealer.
He has got me into guns. He is also on this site.
Thanks for the reply!

Heaven forbid that the people of East St. Louis should have to take responsibility for their own safety! They could get in trouble doing that, but at least there wouldn't be anyone to arrest them.

Free-Stater .... Well Stated, could not have said it better myself!
I have a brother that works nights as a photo journalist for Fox 2 new in St. Louis. He see's a lot of things, and knows most all the police and firemen! He has more radios in his car that the police. One night he held a guy at bay with his camera's "bright light" they thought he was the law. He radioed to the police you had better get here, I got your guy!
Thanks for the reply!

Gulfbreeze, the reason we "need" so many police is that too many people have given themselves over to the notion that government can take care of them, and they believe (falsely) that the police are there to "protect" them. The job of the police is to investigate crimes, arrest criminals, and to keep the public order, NOT to prevent crime. A byproduct of a heavy police presence is often a reduction in crime, but the Supreme Court of the US has ruled on numerous occasions that the police are not required to prevent crimes from happening. That leaves personal safety up to the individual, not the government, and it leaves the police to pick up the pieces and take the blame when things go wrong.

Those who give up their right to self preservation because they think a well-policed society is better than the "anarchy" of the individual are the same people who will meekly give in when their other rights are trampled in the interests of "safety" or "security," so hiring more police as a token solution for the ills of society is simply an admission of failure.

The police have a difficult job, as we often expect them to be superhuman. The fact is that they are underpaid, unappreciated, and overly stressed by the nature of their jobs. I believe that their job would be much easier if people would take more responsibility for themselves, but it seems government would rather hire more police than allow citizens the right to take care of themselves.

The law abiding gun owners often demonized by the news media and certain political factions are usually the biggest cheerleaders for law enforcement, but in the final analysis, hiring more cops won't help.

But in a place like East St. Louis, laying off 1/3 of the police force is a very bad move and likely to have dire consequences.

Free_Stater, I totally agree with you. Well stated!
Thanks for the interest and reply on this video.
As I stated before my brother is with KTVI 2 FOX in St. Louis and he has a fear that this may not be a good move. He is out working between the hours of 10pm and 8am in the morning and see a lot of crime. His camera is his only protection, not much!

Last I new, E. St. Lou has (had) a handgun ban, much like Chicago's. Them people put polititians in charge that strip them of their God given rights, and then they complain.

Gulfbreeze, welcome aboard!

East St. Louis has police??? Years ago, I used to drive a truck interstate - had to stop in East St Louis on many an occasion. Gunfire in the distance, needles all over the place, too many "ladies of the evening" to count . . . in broad daylight. I never knew they had any cops.

spyderhead wrote:I never knew they had any cops.

Maybe they are political "no-show" jobs? If that's the case, then the city is actually only losing imaginary cops they won't have to pay anymore with that imaginary money.

Oh, I'm sure they show up . . . like the cops in Compton (South Central LA), Newark, Detroit, D.C., Chicago . . . Jackson and New Orleans . . . you get my drift? Dey shows up. Dey sho'nuff does.

As my brother used to say, they could probably lose 1/3 and IMPROVE things.

But unfortunately when there is a layoff, the best employees seem to leave and the worst hang around. That seems to be true in all occupations.

NRA_guy wrote:As my brother used to say, they could probably lose 1/3 and IMPROVE things.

But unfortunately when there is a layoff, the best employees seem to leave and the worst hang around. That seems to be true in all occupations.

Amen to that. Go to Jackson to work and get the H*** out of there asap.

Free_Stater wrote:Gulfbreeze, the reason we "need" so many police is that too many people have given themselves over to the notion that government can take care of them, and they believe (falsely) that the police are there to "protect" them. The job of the police is to investigate crimes, arrest criminals, and to keep the public order, NOT to prevent crime. A byproduct of a heavy police presence is often a reduction in crime, but the Supreme Court of the US has ruled on numerous occasions that the police are not required to prevent crimes from happening. That leaves personal safety up to the individual, not the government, and it leaves the police to pick up the pieces and take the blame when things go wrong.

Those who give up their right to self preservation because they think a well-policed society is better than the "anarchy" of the individual are the same people who will meekly give in when their other rights are trampled in the interests of "safety" or "security," so hiring more police as a token solution for the ills of society is simply an admission of failure.

The police have a difficult job, as we often expect them to be superhuman. The fact is that they are underpaid, unappreciated, and overly stressed by the nature of their jobs. I believe that their job would be much easier if people would take more responsibility for themselves, but it seems government would rather hire more police than allow citizens the right to take care of themselves.

The law abiding gun owners often demonized by the news media and certain political factions are usually the biggest cheerleaders for law enforcement, but in the final analysis, hiring more cops won't help.

But in a place like East St. Louis, laying off 1/3 of the police force is a very bad move and likely to have dire consequences.

AMEN!!

yes necro post.. but this is EXACTLY what I have been saying for over 20 years. Law enforcement is just that.. enforcment of law. Rightly or wrongly ( I think rightly) the USA was born under methodology of the self defended citizen. Our current system, even as messed up as it is does not work without the abilty of the citizen to defend themselves.