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Post by ree_countrygirl on Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:59 pm

ok, ive argued this with several people lately so i figured i'd get ya'll's opinions on it.
under ms castle law is it legal for someone age 18 or over to carry a gun in his or her vehicle?
the way i read it the answer is yes

(2) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person over the age of eighteen (18) years to carry a firearm or deadly weapon concealed in whole or in part within the confines of his own home or his place of business, or any real property associated with his home or business or within any motor vehicle


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Re: confused

Post by ree_countrygirl on Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:07 pm

(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?

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Post by nonnieselman on Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:15 pm

the second post sounds like its associated with schools?


ive always had a pistol in my truck since i was old enough to drive, i was pulled over for a expired tag and had to get the new tag out of my center console and my pistol was in there. I told the MHP and he just told me to set it on the seat so he could see it.
I put the tag on and off we went.
i was 19 or 20 at the time.

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Re: confused

Post by Drummer11 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:18 pm

ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


I think your reading this wrong. It is illegal for a student to have a firearm in a vehicle. It says it right there in (a). It says its not a violation if your not a student which means if you are a student it is illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle.

If your over 18 you can have a weapon in your car. If your a student at some school you cannot have it in your vehicle while your on campus.


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Post by lweson on Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:28 pm

The MS Dept of Education in its wisdom has stated that although it is not illegal to ccw according to the Gun Free Schools Act, No weapons will be allowed on educational property by anyone.

http://www.mde.k12.ms.us/public/EBBH.htm
Each local school district shall have a policy concerning weapons on school premises. It shall contain at least the following provisions and may include such additional provisions as the local school district deems appropriate:

The (Name of District) Board of Education recognizes that the possession of pistols, firearms, or other weapons on school premises or at school functions by persons other than duly authorized law enforcement officials creates an unreasonable and unwarranted risk of injury or death to District employees, students, visitors, and guests and further creates an unreasonable and unwarranted risk of damage to properties of District employees, students, visitors, and guests. Because of such dangers, the Board hereby prohibits the possession of pistols, firearms, or weapons in any form by any person other than duly authorized law enforcement officials on school premises or at school functions, regardless of whether any such person possesses a valid permit to carry such pistols, firearms, or weapons.

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Re: confused

Post by CAJNFRND on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:43 pm

Drummer11 wrote:
ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


I think your reading this wrong. It is illegal for a student to have a firearm in a vehicle. It says it right there in (a). It says its not a violation if your not a student which means if you are a student it is illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle.

If your over 18 you can have a weapon in your car. If your a student at some school you cannot have it in your vehicle while your on campus.



Actually, I read section a to read that it is illegal for a student to posess a gun in his vehicle ON ANY EDUCATIONAL PROPERTY, meaning that they may carry in the vehicle as long as they are not on educational properties.

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Re: confused

Post by RKpianoman on Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:51 pm

Unfortunately, every school I've attended (MSU, Holmes, and now MC) forbids firearms on campus even if they are in the vehicle. So, whether or not it is deemed illegal or legal by judge so-and-so, you still run the risk of being removed from that school, losing the tuition you've paid, and getting tied up with court costs and time.

As far as a gun in the vehicle away from school, the only issue I see is that it does not specify "handgun" or "pistol". In more liberal courts, I would assume you might wind up in hot water for possessing a handgun under 21; but that would be worth the risk to me if I were still under 21.

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Re: confused

Post by Drummer11 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:21 pm

CAJNFRND wrote:
Drummer11 wrote:
ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


I think your reading this wrong. It is illegal for a student to have a firearm in a vehicle. It says it right there in (a). It says its not a violation if your not a student which means if you are a student it is illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle.

If your over 18 you can have a weapon in your car. If your a student at some school you cannot have it in your vehicle while your on campus.



Actually, I read section a to read that it is illegal for a student to posess a gun in his vehicle ON ANY EDUCATIONAL PROPERTY, meaning that they may carry in the vehicle as long as they are not on educational properties.


Thats exactly what I said. A student cannot carry a gun in their vehicle if they are on educational property but they can as long as you are anywhere else.

Maybe I just didn't type it clearly.

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Re: confused

Post by ree_countrygirl on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:58 am

Drummer11 wrote:
ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


I think your reading this wrong. It is illegal for a student to have a firearm in a vehicle. It says it right there in (a). It says its not a violation if your not a student which means if you are a student it is illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle.

If your over 18 you can have a weapon in your car. If your a student at some school you cannot have it in your vehicle while your on campus.



but what about part b?

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Re: confused

Post by JT on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:21 pm

ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


THe statute is telling you that to possess a firearm on educational property you must meet conditions a, b and c. Students are prohibited. This allows you to legally drive on the property without having to remove the firearm from your vehicle, such as when people pick up their kids from school.

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Re: confused

Post by nonnieselman on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:39 pm

Glad that wasnt enforced all that strong at the HS i went to. Everybody that Hunted had atleast 1 gun in their truck. We use to leave early to go get in the woods...


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Re: confused

Post by Drummer11 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:41 pm

ree_countrygirl wrote:
Drummer11 wrote:
ree_countrygirl wrote:(6) It shall not be a violation of this section for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any gun, rifle, pistol or other firearm of any kind on educational property if:
(a) The person is not a student attending school on any educational property;
(b) The firearm is within a motor vehicle; and
(c) The person does not brandish, exhibit or display the firearm in any careless, angry or threatening manner.

this adds to my confusion.... i thought it was illegal for a student to have a gun in his or her vehicle but according to this its not?


I think your reading this wrong. It is illegal for a student to have a firearm in a vehicle. It says it right there in (a). It says its not a violation if your not a student which means if you are a student it is illegal to have a firearm in your vehicle.

If your over 18 you can have a weapon in your car. If your a student at some school you cannot have it in your vehicle while your on campus.



but what about part b?


Like JT said you have to meet all 3 parts. If your a student you can't have a gun in your car. It just allows other people to not have to take it out of their vehicle before driving on campus.

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