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Post by righttoown on Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:16 pm

If they don't i think there done.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/John--Bolton--Iran--Nuclear--israel/2010/08/13/id/367449

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Post by kowen1971 on Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:22 pm

Israel will not let Iran get nukes. I think they will bomb them back to the ice age first. And they should. Just my opinion...

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by Stonewall on Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:18 pm

Who cares?

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Post by Doug Bowser on Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:35 pm

They took out the Syrian Nuke sites in the 80's, they will do the same to Iran. Thank you Jimmy Carter for the Iranian mess.

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Post by Leopardcurdog on Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:22 am

Israeli leaders and their citizens have no more balls then our own leaders and us. We're all content to just set on our hands and let them do as they please, knowing full well the outcome.

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Post by TheGreatGonzo on Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:39 am

Stonewall wrote:Who cares?


While you may agree or disagree with the level of U.S. involvement in foreign affairs (personally, I think we are far overextended and too often sticking our nose where it does not belong), it would be foolish to think that we can completely ignore what happens in the Middle East, or the Far East, or North/South Korea. No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by Stonewall on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:01 am

TheGreatGonzo wrote:
Stonewall wrote:Who cares?


While you may agree or disagree with the level of U.S. involvement in foreign affairs (personally, I think we are far overextended and too often sticking our nose where it does not belong), it would be foolish to think that we can completely ignore what happens in the Middle East, or the Far East, or North/South Korea. No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
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How does what Israel and Iran do affect us?

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Post by kowen1971 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:01 am

TheGreatGonzo wrote:
Stonewall wrote:Who cares?


While you may agree or disagree with the level of U.S. involvement in foreign affairs (personally, I think we are far overextended and too often sticking our nose where it does not belong), it would be foolish to think that we can completely ignore what happens in the Middle East, or the Far East, or North/South Korea. No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
Gonzo


+1

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by savageshooter on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:17 am

well, depends on if you believe the Bible or not. God made a covenant with Israel and His covenant still stands. I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. Israel has a right to exist in peace, but its the crazy islamics that dont want peace, they hate Israel and the United States and will stop at nothing to kill and destroy our way of life.
hitler killed the jews and it was the christians who were to be next.
its not if Israel will atack, its when. keep your powder dry.

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by TheGreatGonzo on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:29 am

Stonewall wrote:
TheGreatGonzo wrote:
Stonewall wrote:Who cares?


While you may agree or disagree with the level of U.S. involvement in foreign affairs (personally, I think we are far overextended and too often sticking our nose where it does not belong), it would be foolish to think that we can completely ignore what happens in the Middle East, or the Far East, or North/South Korea. No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
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How does what Israel and Iran do affect us?


Do you truly believe that if war breaks out between an Islamic country and a non-Islamic nation that the rest of the Islamic world will just stand by? And if large scale war in the Middle East is the result, do you honestly think it will not affect the United States? Seriously?!?
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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by Stonewall on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:45 am

TheGreatGonzo wrote:
Stonewall wrote:
TheGreatGonzo wrote:
Stonewall wrote:Who cares?


While you may agree or disagree with the level of U.S. involvement in foreign affairs (personally, I think we are far overextended and too often sticking our nose where it does not belong), it would be foolish to think that we can completely ignore what happens in the Middle East, or the Far East, or North/South Korea. No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
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How does what Israel and Iran do affect us?


Do you truly believe that if war breaks out between an Islamic country and a non-Islamic nation that the rest of the Islamic world will just stand by? And if large scale war in the Middle East is the result, do you honestly think it will not affect the United States? Seriously?!?
Gonzo


Arab countries fight when they think they will win. The last two times non-mohammedan countries attacked mohammedan countries? Uh, yeah. Was 2001 and 2003, IIRC, and the rest of the musselmen just stood by.

1991? Some of the mohammedans even lined up with the infidels to kick their islamic bro's butt.

The Arab street, mythic bogeyman for American leftists for at least 50 years, along with the myth of Ay-rab / Mohammedan unity.

Yeah, I can see the Saudis and Egyptians lining up with a bunch of Persian shiites. Not going to happen. They are scared to death of the non-Arab shiites, the Saudis would probably help the Israelis if push came to shove.

Now, for my original question, how does what the Hebrews and Persians do to each other affect us, at least in a bad way? Still waiting on that answer, lol.

Let's see, Israel has a modern military and 100's of nukes. Iran has a broken-down military and no nukes. Wow, Iran is a huge threat to Israel.

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Post by TheGreatGonzo on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:57 am

Actually, I did answer it. It was simply an answer you did not want to hear. The fact that you may disagree does not make it a non-answer nor an incorrect answer. It simply makes it the answer you don't want to hear. Surprised

Isolationism is a great in a perfect world. If we (the U.S.) had started doing things right 70 years ago, we could afford to say "Nothing else that happens in the world affects me.". Unfortunately, the world stopped being perfect a heck of a long time ago and the U.S. started wandering globally a long time ago as well.

Don't mistake my answer for meaning I am happy with the way things are or the paths we have taken. However, the unfortunate result is that we cannot stick our head and sand or close our eyes, put our fingers in our ears, and sing "tra-la-la-la" as loud as we can to shut out the rest of the world.

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by Stonewall on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:02 am

TheGreatGonzo wrote:Actually, I did answer it. It was simply an answer you did not want to hear. The fact that you may disagree does not make it a non-answer nor an incorrect answer. It simply makes it the answer you don't want to hear. Surprised

Isolationism is a great in a perfect world. If we (the U.S.) had started doing things right 70 years ago, we could afford to say "Nothing else that happens in the world affects me.". Unfortunately, the world stopped being perfect a heck of a long time ago and the U.S. started wandering globally a long time ago as well.

Don't mistake my answer for meaning I am happy with the way things are or the paths we have taken. However, the unfortunate result is that we cannot stick our head and sand or close our eyes, put our fingers in our ears, and sing "tra-la-la-la" as loud as we can to shut out the rest of the world.

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I asked how Iran/Israel war would affect us.

Your answer was this:

"No matter how involved we choose to be, or not to be, what happens there will have a direct effect on our nation.
Gonzo"


Followed by this:

"Do you truly believe that if war breaks out between an Islamic country and a non-Islamic nation that the rest of the Islamic world will just stand by? And if large scale war in the Middle East is the result, do you honestly think it will not affect the United States? Seriously?!?
Gonzo"


Neither of your rhetorical statements constitutes an answer.

How does their conflict affect us unless we choose to let it do so?

Price of oil goes up? Probably. What else?

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Post by TheGreatGonzo on Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:11 am

Arrrrrrgghhhh...I broke my #1 rule and let myself get involved in a political discussion. And I don't discuss politics. So I'm leaving it at that.

Stonewall, you may not like my answer, but it is my answer. If war breaks out in the Middle East and it has absolutely no effect on the United States in any way, shape, or form, I will gladly let you do the "I told you so" dance all over my lawn while I stand on one leg and repeat the phrase "Stonewall was right" over and over again. So I'll leave you with it and let the political discourse continue. salute/flag

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Post by savageshooter on Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:43 pm

well i seem to remember in the early 80s iran and iraq were at war, ussr was finding iran and the good ole US was finding iraq. youall remember that? remember whp out sadam hussain in power in the first place,...... U.S. did
i dont heink the islamic world has frogotten 1967. they all jumped on Israel and in 6 days were begging Israel to stop. A lot or stories from Israelie soldiers where the Great Jahovah came to their aid.

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Post by dnr1128 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:00 pm

Israel will not be destroyed. Ever.

How would we not be involved? Not only are we Israel's strongest (probably only) ally, but we have a large part of our military next door to Iran. If Israel launches a surgical strike, and Iran fires back, even with non-nuclear missiles, we would be sucked into the conflict.


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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by savageshooter on Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:08 pm

i might effect us by all the "sleeper" agents in the U.S. that might start stuff right here. remember they hate us just for being. Europe right now is trying to figure out how to get out of the mess they are in by curbing immigration of islamics without a war.
was in Natchez last weelend, at the visitors center read something i was really suprised at. you know who was behind all the slave trade, i mean when you cut through all the fluff and stuff, the islamic world was the ones really promoting and profiting from it. i was suprised they axulaay left that for people to read.

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by msredneck on Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:03 pm

What happens in the Middle East affects us big time...Oil would skyrocket again...whether it was real or otherwise...Our country runs on oil....it could go to $4 - $5 gal in a heartbeat...further grippling our great Obama recovery we got going on

On the good side of things...If we had some real sh!t going on...unlike the military police actions the USA loves to get involved in...I think the Israeli would kick some serious a$$....If they chose to....

The USA is currently shipping a pile of patriots to Kuwait as we speak

Do I think Israel will do it any time soon....Nope

Iran is just a BS country with a blowhard leader...while we got our eye on them ...the real folks we need to be watching are the N. Koreans and Chinese....that would be some serious Do Do...

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by kowen1971 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:19 pm

I agree with neck on this one. Even if Iran did get a big bomb, Israel won't pitter patter around. They will do what they have to and won't worry bout what others think. They won't need our help military wise. But if the two Koreas tie up again then we will have no choice but to get involved as we have our military stationed at the very bases the north would want to take out in the south. And when we get involved then look for China to if course side with the north. China, who by the way, owns us more and more financially as our guberment continues borrowing money to pay for the destruction of our constitution and country.

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Re: Do you think Israeli is going to attack?

Post by Methos on Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:05 pm

I don't usually agree with Israel on anything, but on the issue of Iran and nukes I do. If a country generally hates mine and their leadership has publicly called for my destruction, there is no way in hell I would stand by and let that sort of psycho obtain nuclear bombs. I'd bomb the hell out of any nuclear facility i knew of once I had good intel. I think that is a legitimate justification for preemptive attack if there ever was one. Much more than W's unfounded excuses.

However, the opening of this nuclear power plant is not a threat to Israel. Just because Russia builds a power plant for them and oversees the opening of it doesn't mean that this particular place is associated with nuclear bomb making. I think they'll let it open without incident. I wouldn't waste my once chance for a surprise attack for legit nuclear targets on this power plant. And they sure wouldn't want to kill 30 or 40 russian technicians in the process. The Bear will likely get pissed and if that didn't cause a direct russian military response, it would surely cause a big arms sale to Iran - prolly top end anti-aircraft missiles.

..but this is all just supposition.

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