Paranoid

I have wanted a CCW for years but I have always mistrusted Uncle Sam when it comes to do gooders and identity snoopers. Am I just an over paranoid black helicopter dude or do ya'll have the same concerns? It looks to me as if we are always only a few votes away from gun control by over zealous "good intention" folks. If it comes to that, why wouldn't those that have registered and been finger printed be the first ones to be affected? This subject may have already been beaten to death, and if it has I apologize. If I'm not paranoid and have a healthy wariness of the gubment, then please tell me how you have overcome this little issue. If it is best discussed over a cup of coffe, then I would be glad to meet and greet . I live in Canton and work in Jackson.

If they're coming for them they're coming. Take 'Necks' advice and don't put all your stuff in one place. I keep threatin' to drive rebar in the ground around the house to keep them busy. I imagine that would look like a barrel when they go around with a metal detector.

They do a background check when you buy a handgun don't they? You have a drivers license don't you? Combine the 2 and you have the MS firearms permit. All of the info they need is already right there. Gun shops are even required to keep records of sales for so long.

If they want to come after anyone with a gun I hardly believe that it would be those of us with a permit first. Everything they need to come get your guns has already been put in the system via bass pro or whoever.

So don't be anymore paranoid than necessary...and if I'm wrong then I'll just be in the same boat as everyone else on this forum. If they come for anyones guns though I'm gonna give them a heckuva chase scene, because to me that is the first official sign of a dictatorship coming out of the wood work, and we'll all need to go Red Dawn on em.

jakeg823 wrote:
So don't be anymore paranoid than necessary...and if I'm wrong then I'll just be in the same boat as everyone else on this forum.

Yeah the boat that we had all our guns in just before it sank.

Partial Solution:

1. Don't keep all your guns in one location

2. Buy as many used guns as u can afford...private sale

If the gubermint wants 'em...They gonna get em or run the taxes up on your ammo so high that folks that can't roll there own ammo with be screwed...

But in the end.."They" know we got em...If they come for em.....are we gonna give em to 'em?....That is the issue....The Jews rolled over when Hitler came to round them up...look what it got them....

Not happening to me baby.....I'll go down swinging any way

msredneck wrote:Partial Solution:

1. Don't keep all your guns in one location

2. Buy as many used guns as u can afford...private sale

If the gubermint wants 'em...They gonna get em or run the taxes up on your ammo so high that folks that can't roll there own ammo with be screwed...

But in the end.."They" know we got em...If they come for em.....are we gonna give em to 'em?....That is the issue....The Jews rolled over when Hitler came to round them up...look what it got them....

Not happening to me baby.....I'll go down swinging any way

Oh My God ... Best thing I've read yet on this issue. I AM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, Neck!

Its not the guns.........they'll block the ammo. Who cares about the guns, when you can't shoot them.

Hoard.

If you're paranoid about "them" knowing, well, guess what. You think the www aint on record somewhere? "They" know Joe Sixpack aint gonna resist if that time comes. He'll tote them guns down to the local collection place and just turn them in. The others folks, well..........................

Thanks for the replies. I have begun building up my ammo supplies and have gotten back into reloading. Still having some issues with consistent feeding on my .45, but that's another topic all together. I'm not sure about storing in multiple locations. Is that within the same property or different properties?

I store in several locations. I have two safes, one on each floor of the house. I have some hide-out guns positioned around the house and whatever I drive has one or two. In addition to that I CCW.

If a house burns the upper floors get the hottest. If it floods the lower floor goes under. If someone breaks in and finds one or two they might stop looking.

Over seventy guns of mine got flooded during Katrina. When you are worried about the basics of security, shelter and food, fixing guns is not real high on the list of things to do tonight. I got carry guns running then turned to SD/HD for me an two neighbors. Everything else waited. It's been five years and I still have some that have not had anything other than a dunking in fresh water and a coating of 30weight motor oil.

The lesson I learned was minimize. I picked guns I really really need or those that represented something special to me. I have a few go-to guns now that see a lot of use and then a few that are special. I concetrated on certain platforms, ie. 1911 in 40 & 45, bolt action rifles in 308 and 22 and pump shotguns. I have some oddballs like my pump and singleshot rifles and double 20ga for doves and squirrels in the early season. Not as hard to choose what to take now but also I don't hear myself blaming unfamiliarity with the gun for a missed shot. Actually there are fewer missed shots now.

I have a few that I will be geting rid of as trade goods because they don't fit my new and improved criteria. Nowdays it is more about quality than quantity anyway. I want a 358 Winchester rifle and will probably start a build shortly. Other than that i see more leaving here than arriving.

I too, am upping my ammo inventory and it is easier with fewer calibers to buy. It is also easier to go to the range because I always have ammo now.

I got off topic here so I'll get us back. Don't worry about the things you can't do anything about, like Uncle Sam and Black Helicopters and blue helmets. Buy what you like, buy the best you can afford and try to minimize the chances of loosing everything in a single mishap. Enjoy what you have while you have it. It can be gone tomorrow. Every day try to make yesterday jealous!

Don't waste your paranoia gentlemen. From the very day our founding fathers established this great nation, rumors of firearms being confiscated by the government have abounded. Americans are exercising their right to acquire arms in record numbers, and manufacturers produced more pistols, rifles, shotguns and revolvers in the first half of 2009, than in all of 2008. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=6003

However, this isn't to say that there ISN'T any danger...
Senator Diane Feinstein, speaking on "60-Minutes" immediately after the passage of the Brady Bill said, "if I thought I could get the votes, I'd have taken them all." That's not paranoia; that is the clearly stated objective of a liberal Democrat U.S. senator.
And the consequences...
Uganda got gun control in 1970. Over the next nine years over 300,000 Christians were rounded up and killed.
And the moral?
"Would you rather have butter or guns? Preparedness makes us powerful. Butter merely makes us fat.” Hermann Goering

In other words, let us turn our paranoia to preparedness.

I'm wary of Government intrusion into my business, that's why the last few years I've been concentrating on buying FTF, stockpiling ammo in certain calibers & having a few calibers with multiple platforms.

Example, I own multiple Glock 19s. Two of which were purchased FTF with a handshake & zero paperwork. Add to that a Keltec Sub2000 Carbine & cases of 9mm ammo & you get the picture.

I've seriously considered getting my CCW, just haven't got around to it yet. I may go ahead now that I've got a few weeks off work.

Any info gathered from CCW application is basically info they already have anyway I figure.

If "they" are coming for my guns one day then they'll earn whatever they take, that's for sure.

As an added afterthought, I am also into survival prepping, is there a sub forum for that here at MSGO?

Have you read James Rawles "Patriots", if not, DO!
I am just now starting to 'prep'...in a more serious way.

1985 4runner wrote:As an added afterthought, I am also into survival prepping, is there a sub forum for that here at MSGO?

Haven't seen one, but you've been here much longer than I. But along those lines, this book was a GREAT read, and good information as well.

arnygollott3 wrote:Have you read James Rawles "Patriots", if not, DO!
I am just now starting to 'prep'...in a more serious way.

I thought it was an excellent book (with the exception of the one strange chapter about the 2 fugitive brothers, which did not seem, in any way, to fit with the rest of the book ).

The book was both entertaining and educational, which is a rare combination.
Gonzo

[quote="arnygollott3"]Have you read James Rawles "Patriots", if not, DO!
I am just now starting to 'prep'...in a more serious way.


I'll have to check that out. I've read "Light's Out" and a few others. I've been prepping for a few years now but with the addition of two new family members in the last three years I've had to step it up and improvise.

I'll have to see if Hammer thinks a sub forum for survival, self-sufficiency skills, etc. could be a possibility.

TheGreatGonzo wrote:

arnygollott3 wrote:Have you read James Rawles "Patriots", if not, DO!
I am just now starting to 'prep'...in a more serious way.

I thought it was an excellent book (with the exception of the one strange chapter about the 2 fugitive brothers, which did not seem, in any way, to fit with the rest of the book ).

The book was both entertaining and educational, which is a rare combination.
Gonzo

I just finished that chapter, maybe it was for demonstrating how easily one can end up in a survival situation even in the midst of a 'functioning' society and it was a good chance to bring up the 'gun culture' and gun legislation. It was also a chance to reinforce the notion that you must be very careful and respectful with law enforcement and not get into situations as they did, more or less tempting and daring the officer. The brothers showed poor judgment by trying to 'buck' the system, even if there intentions were noble...there actions were misguided.

Overall, I think that chapter was as much about what not to do as the rest of the book is about what to do...

I am about 1/3 through it, just started reading late yesterday and I love it!

I hope we get permission to setup a survival/prepper sub forum...meanwhile I read survivalblog dot com.

I would second a sub forum for that. Put things like specials on food at different stores, ammo and what to hit the road with. Lots of things people don't think about like the advantage of bagged food over canned as far as storage. Good books to read on setting traps for animals and things like that. One Wednesday's, there is a good show on the Outdoor network called "The Best Defense". I'm sure there are plenty of things we know as individuals that we don't know as a group. I know there are plenty of forums on this, but not dedicated to our area. Things that people in Ohio need are not things we need in MS and vice versa.

If you wanna talk books....publications....start a new thread in the Publications section....not here

Thanks