MSAR STG 556

what ya'll know about these?

My knowledge is limited... they seem to have gotten a bad rap...possibly came to market a little fast

Steyr AUG clone

I held one yesterday and fell in lust.....Super sexy gun...been thinking about it all night....That usually means a buy is in order...Only thing that bothers me is MSAR is a knife maker....knife maker doing guns...I dunno...but a Steyr AUG will run ya about $2500

Bad ass CQB gun.....

http://www.msarinc.com/stg556_sporting.html

I have always wanted to try one of those. I have been scared to because I think I would end up taking it home with me. I am always looking for another 22. It looks bad a$$ how does it run?

Its chambered in 556....Ok a BIG 22

owner shot a few out of it yesterday and says it shot well.

They got a reputation for FTF, FTEs but I dunno if its or not

a CQB that FTF's FTE would be a very uncool

I've fondled a few at a couple gun shows, but never shot one. Read about em in a gun mag a couple years back. Of course it was perfectly fit blah blah blah. But once they started getting away from the script, they claimed that it's the same as the aug but better. Supposedly easier to operate or something....I dunno it's been a couple years and that mag got tossed out a month or so back

Back a few years ago I was craving one of these bullpup guns. I really wanted the FN FS2000 and still sort of do. I was torn between it, the PS90 and the MSAR. I got to doing some research and found a few cases (very, very small number) where some of these guns (except PS90) had fired out of battery. I can't remember if the MSAR was one or not. Anyway, I started thinking that I did not want that potentially happening that close to my face. It's not that good looking to begin with and just put that purchase on hold. I need to review it again.

Gun Tests reviewed the Steyr AUG Vs. MSAR and the FN FS2000 this month. They were pretty underwhelmed by all of them. MSAR was more accurate, AUG won in the action test. MSAR was the better value in their estimation but they suspect many would prefer the AUG.

msredneck wrote:what ya'll know about these?

My knowledge is limited... they seem to have gotten a bad rap...possibly came to market a little fast

Steyr AUG clone

I held one yesterday and fell in lust.....Super sexy gun...been thinking about it all night....That usually means a buy is in order...Only thing that bothers me is MSAR is a knife maker....knife maker doing guns...I dunno...but a Steyr AUG will run ya about $2500

Bad ass CQB gun.....

http://www.msarinc.com/stg556_sporting.html

dont mean to change subject or to mean any disrespect msredneck but you can tell when someone is getting old when you stay up all night thinking about a gun. LOL

Yep....I'm guilty on all counts

That bullpup MASR feels real good in the hands...it really does...and its half the price of a Steyr...those babies are $2500...I don't need one THAT bad

I've heard that the primary problems with the MSAR center around those guns set up to accept M16 mags, though I've heard other things about the MSAR. I DO NOT have any first hand knowledge, and all I "know" about them has come from Internet posts. I've also read that they work great. Best idea is to so some serious research and talk to people who own them. It is seriously sexy, that's for sure.

I DO KNOW that the new USA-made Steyr AUG A3 works very, very well, so long as you stick to military ball ammo. That's all I've used in mine other than some Remington 50-grain HP promotional stuff that functioned very poorly. The can in the second photo is made by Coastal. It has a bayonet style attachment point that will fit on any .223 with a NATO standard flash hider. The sight is an EOTECH 517 A65.

Dad's Super Pawn in Gulfport has them on the rack for $2295, I believe, but if you shop around, you can find an AUG for around $1900.

I have to say, I was trained as a Field Armorer on the Steyr AUG and I could not stand the rifle. Extremely heavy for a bullpup design and, in my opinion, a very unbalanced feel to it. Also a real pain to work with as an armorer. I did not care for it at all. Just my humble opinion....
Gonzo

Gonzo, a friend of mine was with a couple of Federal law enforcement agencies, and they were issued the selective fire AUGS. He hated it too. You're right about the balance issue, but it grows on you. I wanted to build a suppressed .223, and the bullpup design helped keep overall length down. Putting that can on an AR makes for a very uncomfortable experience, as the muzzle gets way too heavy; the AUG is manageable, however.

For a vehicle weapon or CQB...it has its place...I guess the "feel" is in the operator...I can't speak to the armorer stuff Gonzo....That's why I started the thread...I have a bead on one for about $1300...way less than a Steyr but don't wanna but any "issues"

Neck, my gut instinct says you'd be okay buying the MSAR. Every new production gun is going to have issues, and what I've heard negative about them wouldn't fill a coffee cup. The choice is to buy the one that takes the AUG mags or the AR mags. Just off the cuff, I'd say the one that takes the original design mags would be better. If you need a source for them at very reasonable prices, PM me.