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How are y'all sighting ya'lls guns in for the shoot?
Also what are you bringing ammo/gun wise?
Also what are you bringing ammo/gun wise?

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Xd357 wrote:How are y'all sighting ya'lls guns in for the shoot?
Also what are you bringing ammo/gun wise?
Ain't figured that out yet!! What you think?
Ammo -- probably around 500 rounds to shoot .... I am bringing another 1000 rounds of steel cased (Wolf) in case additional is needed by some ...
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Re: Camp McCain
I'M bringing my bushy just need to sight it in with my cheep true glow reddot.

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Re: Camp McCain
IPSC targets at 200 & 300................................
Enough said..............................
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Enough said..............................
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My guess is that red dot is gonna be hard to shoot at 300m. Mine is hard to shoot at 100 yards. I'm taking mine off and going with irons. I did it in the Army years ago, hopefully I can still see that far. LOL!

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Iron sights on Colt HB!! -- may bring an EoTech and 3x EoTech Mag for fun ...
Will bring several 16" Bushmasters to play with ...
Off to the loading bench!! thinking about 62gr bullet pushed with 26gr Varget?? Should run about 2850fps -- Need 500 of them puppies!!
Remember - MOS (Minute of Silhouette) should get the job done!!!!!!!!!
Will bring several 16" Bushmasters to play with ...
Off to the loading bench!! thinking about 62gr bullet pushed with 26gr Varget?? Should run about 2850fps -- Need 500 of them puppies!!
Remember - MOS (Minute of Silhouette) should get the job done!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by captain-03 on Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
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I've got buis just thought about using it.

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SubGunFan wrote:IPSC targets at 200 & 300................................
Enough said..............................
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I need to see how that's gonna work.
Anybody "testing" their guns out tomorrow at MR&P club?

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Maybe -- what time you thinking about?
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Just got off. How's about 11 or 12?????

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These ranges are laid out for a standard 300 meter zero w/open sights on the M16/M4.

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SGMJody wrote:These ranges are laid out for a standard 300 meter zero w/open sights on the M16/M4.
I agree. Using the "8/3" setting on A2 sights. However, you need to get your front sight "zeroed".
My question is..... How far above POA (Point of Aim) should the bullets hit at say 100yds (or 200yds)?
Like many of you.... I need to spend time on the range to prepare for the Camp McCain trip.
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Here are a couple links on battlesight zero for the A-2:
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m16a2/battlesight-zeroing-the-m-2.shtml
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m16a2/zero-and-m16a2-rifle.shtml
Of Course, these procedures are using the M193, 55gr, FMJ round ... other ammo, YMMV!
Site to print the 25M battlesight zero target:
http://www.bobdbob.com/~deneb/doc/targets/m16a2-25m-zero.pdf
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m16a2/battlesight-zeroing-the-m-2.shtml
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m16a2/zero-and-m16a2-rifle.shtml
Of Course, these procedures are using the M193, 55gr, FMJ round ... other ammo, YMMV!
Site to print the 25M battlesight zero target:
http://www.bobdbob.com/~deneb/doc/targets/m16a2-25m-zero.pdf
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SubGunFan wrote:My question is..... How far above POA (Point of Aim) should the bullets hit at say 100yds (or 200yds)?
SGF - Good question?? I thought would be that it may vary depending on the ballistics of the round used ... weight/velocity ... ??
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Ammo -- probably around 500 rounds to shoot .... [/quote]
Seriously? 500 rounds? Who's got the best price now? Looks like I need to order some, what am I looking for...don't have a clue.
Ammo -- probably around 500 rounds to shoot .... [/quote]
Seriously? 500 rounds? Who's got the best price now? Looks like I need to order some, what am I looking for...don't have a clue.

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shoeshooter wrote:Seriously? 500 rounds? Who's got the best price now? Looks like I need to order some, what am I looking for...don't have a clue.
You certainly do not have to bring 500 rounds to have a good time. The Course of Fire (COF) is 40 rounds. However, you may want to shoot it multiple times!! 500 may be a stretch!!
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M193 = 55gr FMJ / 3250fps at 15' from muzzle
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5 runs at 40rds per run = 200rds. NOTE: You will not be limited to only 5 runs.
The total number of runs depends on...............
1. How much you want to shoot.
2. How long each relay takes.
3. How many people attend.
With 16 foxholes that allows for many shooter. However, some people will have to be ROs during a relay.
Captain correct me if I am wrong, but I think a COF lasted 3-5 minutes. Since we don't go downrange to score, that will save time.
I see 10 to 15 minutes between relays. 10 minutes for relays in which you stay in the foxhole between relays, and 15 minutes when new shooters move into foxholes. Also to help save time, I say that a shooter could shoot up to 3 consecutive relays (with different firearms if desired if those firearms are brought to the foxhole when you first arrive at your foxhole. No leaving the foxhole to go get another firearm.) Remember to bring enough ammo to shoot all 3 relays if that is your plan. No extra ammo will be brought to you.
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The total number of runs depends on...............
1. How much you want to shoot.
2. How long each relay takes.
3. How many people attend.
With 16 foxholes that allows for many shooter. However, some people will have to be ROs during a relay.
Captain correct me if I am wrong, but I think a COF lasted 3-5 minutes. Since we don't go downrange to score, that will save time.
I see 10 to 15 minutes between relays. 10 minutes for relays in which you stay in the foxhole between relays, and 15 minutes when new shooters move into foxholes. Also to help save time, I say that a shooter could shoot up to 3 consecutive relays (with different firearms if desired if those firearms are brought to the foxhole when you first arrive at your foxhole. No leaving the foxhole to go get another firearm.) Remember to bring enough ammo to shoot all 3 relays if that is your plan. No extra ammo will be brought to you.
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Anybody bringing a bolt action .223????

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